re: The ASSET issue - AGAIN ... :( -- BPCS-L

I totally agree with Wendy, lets us go on with something which will be 
benefical to every one
menon
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From: Wendy DeCair <wendy.decair@countryfresh.com>, on 09/19/2000 5:19 PM:

Dear Sir/Madame-

You are allowed to have your own opinion about AS/SET  and as it appears
that you have a different opinion about the value of it, maybe you should
take this conversation offline and not continue to tie up everyone's e-mail
server with useless banter over something you can not change and move onto
some more useful topic like how to use alternate methods in a BOM.

Sincerely-
a serious BPCS user


----- Original Message -----
From: L. S. Russell <leslier@datrek.com>
To: <BPCS-L@midrange.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 2:19 PM
Subject: Re: the ASSET issue again


> I am basing my opinons on reading the source code on our system, would
> you like some samples?
> You seem to think AS/SET is god's gift to software design, it really is
> just a flawed tool that generates what can only be described as a
> pitiful excuse for RPG.
>
> Who cares wht the Action diagram looks like, it can be perfect and
> AS/SET will still generate bloated and unreadble RPG.
>
> Genyphyr Novak wrote:
> >
> > The "No I don't use AS/SET" comment says it all for me. Not sure what
you
> > are basing your opinions on here, if you are just looking at the RPG
source,
> > rather than what it is generated from (ie, the Action Diagram).
> >
> > The generator does not generate empty subroutines from a well-written
> > written action diagram. This is the fault of someone commenting out only
a
> > portion of the action diagram, probably in the process of fixing a BMR,
and
> > not getting references to the subroutine properly removed in the rest of
the
> > code.
> >
> > By the way, I never said there were not empty subroutines in the RPG
source.
> > My point is that the reason for them existing has nothing to do with
some
> > flaw in the AS/SET tool itself.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Genyphyr Novak
> > SSA
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: L. S. Russell <leslier@datrek.com>
> > To: BPCS-L@midrange.com <BPCS-L@midrange.com>
> > Date: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 8:33 AM
> > Subject: Re: the ASSET issue again
> >
> > >No, I don't use AS/SET.  But I have looked at more than enough AS/SET
> > >code to know that, yes Virginia there are empty sub routines.
> > >
> > >Genyphyr Novak wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Hello,
> > >>
> > >> Subroutines getting executed with no code to run inside them is not
from
> > the
> > >> tool itself generating this, but is due to the person who did the
> > coding -
> > >> most likely some BMR had a subroutine commented out, but not all
> > references
> > >> to it were removed elsewhere, so it is called and does nothing. Sorry
to
> > >> say, this is not the fault of the tool. Are you are using AS/SET? It
> > sounds
> > >> like you have never looked at the action diagrams to check to see
what
> > they
> > >> look like.
> > >>
> > >> Thanks
> > >>
> > >> Genyphyr Novak
> > >> SSA
> > >>
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: L. S. Russell <leslier@datrek.com>
> > >> To: BPCS-L@midrange.com <BPCS-L@midrange.com>
> > >> Date: Monday, September 18, 2000 2:54 PM
> > >> Subject: Re: the ASSET issue again
> > >>
> > >> >A loop is a loop, but a loop executed 15 times unnecessarily in
effect
> > >> >slows down a program.
> > >> >Things like statementless loops, and sub routines (with nothing but
> > >> >BEGSR and ENDSR) are common in the AS/SET generated code we work in
> > >> >here.
> > >> >
> > >> >Betty, back me up :) lol
> > >> >
> > >> >helen@dekko.com wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >> I do not agree that the ASSET generated programs take longer to
> > execute.
> > >> >> The development time has been reduced significantly using this
tool
> > and I
> > >> >> believe that it is not all that difficult to debug using STRISDB.
> > It's
> > >> >> simply a matter of becoming familiar with the naming conventions
and
> > >> >> getting accustomed to reading ASSET source.
> >
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