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Hi Sony ... we are now on BPCS 405 CD mixed mode AS/400 & we are using PART of the JIT (Just in Time) module & MOST of the SFC(Shop Floor Control) module & many other modules such as INV MRP etc. In 1998 we converted to this reality from BPCS/36 which did not have a JIT module. Our reason for starting with the JIT module had to do with labor & inventory reporting.. When shop floor transactions are reported, there are several ways that BPCS supports to get the transactions inputed to the system. You can use bar coding through CIM or other options in later versions of BPCS. We currently are not using this option due to some management perceptions that we hire people based on their skill doing their job assignment & entering labor transactions through any means is not what we hire shop floor people for ... we want them to enter the minimum detail on the labor tickets, so that from a time consumption basis they spend several hours doing the production & less than a minute reporting that work on the labor ticket, & then have a clerical person, who has been hired based on clerical skills, get that data into the system. If we ever went to bar coded input of labor tickets, it would be for the purpose of saving us the considerable time expended every day by clerical personnel at each facility entering transactions. However, when there is a reporting problem on the paperwork, we know that our clerical person catches them & something gets done about those tickets pretty promptly. We do not know enough about bar coded input realities to trust that the same kind of intelligence would be there, that obviously is not in SFC600 or JIT600. On BPCS/36 we had a front end to convert the minutes to decimal hours & there is a request for me to do a modification to have that again in BPCS 405 CD. I found in the documentation where there is a work around way to enter minutes & have the system convert to decimal but production control informed me that this is not convenient for them to use & too much of a hassle, what they want is to be able to key minutes to screen then do a command key that would convert the minutes entry to decimal hours, or have a conversion in the program so that they key minutes, but decimal hours goes into the data & if they doing later maintenance to labor ticket, it would convert their input back to minutes onto the screen. You can enter the labor transactions via SFC600 series, and the inventory transactions via INV500 & other inventory programs, which is how we did it for many years on BPCS/36. You can write a modification so that you only do one side of this & the modification figures out the rest. On BPCS/36 we had a modification that looked at labor history from SFC620 & figured "they made this .... so therefore according to the BOM (FMA) they must have used those materials ... so generate a transaction to consume them" We used this approach for many years when the management philosophy was that getting this data into the system was an enormous chore & any labor saving device was justifiable. But then there came a time that inventory accuracy rose in importance & the recognition that our shop floor reporting contained intolerable levels of inaccuracy. They accepted the labor inaccuracy, but wanted to fix the inventory inaccuracy, so we quit using the backflushing inventory from labor history automated input program, except for scrap reporting, and the regular production inventory transactions were to be done by a materials handling person who counted what was manufactured to ensure a more accurate input ... at that time in BPCS/36 the program was SFC570 I believe. Today, both inventory accuracy & labor accuracy are critically important to our management & we are adding analytical reports to nail down where our efficiencies & reporting problems are & where we have inaccuracies in our engineering data. It seems to me that most of our standard vs. actual cost variances are in the labor reporting rates. If the standard says they should be able to do 60 an hour & the labor reporting says they are doing 20 an hour, then the actual labor & overhead cost will be 3 times the standard & this also has an impact on Capacity Planning & MRP Scheduling. JIT600 made it possible for labor & inventory shop floor transactions to be entered in synchronization together as a single clerical action. This had the added benefit of resolving some timing problems in how BPCS codes a shop order as ready for purge. We make some parts in which there is repetitive requirements for a customer, so the official order might be for 500, but they actually make 550 & want to report 550 to the order. Now it is real smart to increase the quantity needed from 500 to 550 on multi-operation order before the first operation is completed, but we do not always get our shop order maintenance promptly caught up with reality. Suppose all the labor has been keyed in but not all the inventory transactions ... BPCS can say this order is ready for purge & so there is a risk that an evening's purge will get rid of an order that an inventory clerk was going to do a final transaction to the next morning. But when we use JIT600 instead of SFC600 & INV500 that kind of problem is eliminated. JIT600 under the covers is SFC600 except with the inventory transactions added. The screens look identical to the clerical input person & the data is keyed in the same way. We made a few minor modifications to this, after we found too frequent transcription errors where someone would key some data to the wrong field, like hours data to quantity field, or shop order # to hours field. We now have some reasonableness checks on the scale of the data going in, like we do not allow any numbers with decimals going into the quantity - everything must be whole numbers, and since labor reporting is for one day's work, we do not allow more than 25 hours on one ticket (the day the time changes for a machine that is running non-stop). The JIT application is a whole lot more than this, but that is about all of it that we are using, so consequently some other aspects of it like JIT300 are a bit flawed for us. We have the Unbeaten Path Manual on Production & Costing, which costs $250.00, and I highly reccommend. It has charts of SFC vs. JIT, comparing the two applications & showing how you manage your shop floor if you are not using JIT & how you SHOULD manage it if you are using JIT & as I stated earlier we are not using a valid mixture, but we are managing satisfactorily other than enormous difficulty for many people nailing down where our cost variances & inefficiencies are located. We launch our shop orders using the SFC MRP logic system & report our labor & inventory using JIT600. The UPI Manual on this topic comes with a great guarantee & you can check out info on it at http://www.unbeatenpathintl.com/bpcsconsulting.html You can sign up for one of their courses in which the content can be tailored to your business - mix & match the modules you want covered. Many other 3rd party BPCS vendors offer education in BPCS but this is the only outfit I am aware of that sells the class materials as a separate package. I have also been to SSA school. Their class handouts are like a collection of screen images & representative reports. I have also talked with people who have been to SSA school more recently than me & been told that in this respect nothing has changed. The UPI class handouts are vastly superior in my opinion from perspective of understanding the big picture, although the mass paper detail is not there, with flow charts showing the inter-relationships of the various stages the application must process through & what data is available in what form where in the overall process, but both of these sets of handouts are aimed at end users & their department managers. I also attended Crowe Chizek classes in BPCS topics, most of them during our 1998 conversion & one several years earlier ... their handout quality is not consistent, but it is getting better. Crowe also hosts some regional BPCS User conferences & seminars that I want to attend some time. There are also a number of newsletters & journals you can subscribe to on BPCS topics. I think NexGen's is the best for departmental management getting the biggest bang out of the BPCS buck, while Crowe Chizek's is best for management long range BPCS planning, and I have found Iquest's extremely useful for seeing what is practical. Technical people need something more than any of this, such as BPCS_L, the IBM Redbook on BPCS, and/or the DSlick BPCS Reference Manual. There is also some on-line documentation that is extremely poorly indexed, because it was designed on another SSA sub-system then ported here without all the embedded controls working satisfactorily, but you might visit the DOC menu option 2 & select SSA RUN ? then scroll through what is available to you there. I hope this has been somewhat helpful. > From: Arrakal.Sony@psinetcs.com (Arrakal Sony) > > Hi, > I am new to BPCS. Can anyone tell me about the MMM Product JIT(Just in Time) > and also the relationship with SFC(Shop Floor Control). > Thanks in Advance, > Sony. Al Macintyre ©¿© MIS Manager Green Screen Programmer & Computer Janitor of BPCS 405 CD Rel-02 running on AS/400 V4R3 http://www.cen-elec.com Central Industries of Indiana--->Quality manufacturer of wire harnesses and electrical sub-assemblies +--- | This is the BPCS Users Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to BPCS-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to BPCS-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to BPCS-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner: dasmussen@aol.com +---
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