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We modified all BPCS maintenance programs so that only Opt 5 shows on the screen this is the default mode. We then set up a ZCC table by user and program that then allows particular user to have access to other options eg. 010205, will give a user access to 1-create ,2 -Change, 5- Display. Jon Le Roi wrote: > I do not think this is unique to the cliet server version nor just to BPCS. > MAPICS, Pansophic and BPCS all have a program that allows create, delete, > update and display of the master records for things like customers, vendors > and items. Every company I have worked for has written a unique version of > these programs to limit it to view only; a simple process but silly that it > is not provided as part of the package. > > Regards, > Jon Le Roi > > At 08:36 AM 7/20/99 -0500, you wrote: > >Based on the responses so far, I think the problems I have with update vs. > >inquiry security must be unique due to the fact that we are client/server. > >We are able to limit access by program with no problem. So we don't allow > >people access to month-end programs, and we can limit their access to > >programs that are inquiry only, like INV300 and CST300 without any problem. > >Our problem happens on things like the vendor master, customer master, or > >item master. We can't give people access to just display the information. > >There is a file command in the menu bar at the top of the window that allows > >them to choose between create, copy, revise, delete, and display functions. > >We cannot limit which function they choose. > > > > > >Martha Bayer > >Badger Mining Corporation > >920-361-2388 > >mbayer@badgerminingcorp.com > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: MacWheel99@aol.com [SMTP:MacWheel99@aol.com] > > Sent: Monday, July 19, 1999 3:21 PM > > To: BPCS-L@midrange.com > > Subject: Re: BPCS Security Concepts > > > > > Subj: RE: BPCS Security - More information > > > From: mbayer@badgerminingcorp.com (Martha Bayer) > > > > > We're on 6.0.02 CS AS/400. We were told by SSA consultants that > >update vs. > > > inquiry security may be available in version 7.0. I wonder how > >many others > > > think this is an important feature? Has any one found a way > >around it? > > > > Update vs. Inquiry security is available in version 405 CD - did it > >go away > > in V6 or am I not understanding something? > > > > My understanding of this is that INQUIRY is where people can view > >data via > > INV300 SFC350 CST300 etc. while update means people can run jobs > >that update > > the BPCS data base such as ORD500 JIT600 etc. > > > > One headache with 405 CD security is the group security is an all or > >nothing > > everyone same rules, so to offer different IBM rules to some user > >sub-groups, > > we have to risk a performance hit by having secondary user groups. > > > > Another headache is that we have users who have had to be granted > >command > > line authority, and been shown how to do some support tunctions for > >narrow > > reasons, then used their know-how & access in ways I consider quite > > dangerous, like DFU vs. BPCS file contents. > > > > > Subj: Re: BPCS Security - More information > > > From: mkamara@krupsusa.com > > > > > > We're on 6.0.04 MM, AS/400 720 V4R3 and new to BPCS. We are a > > > wholesale/distribution company in the US. I have set up basic > >security > > > given access to the modules based on departments. I will like to > >have a > > > tighter control without affecting performance where some users > >will update > > > capabilities and others have inquiry only. > > > > Check BPCS Documentation - there is an outline of how the security > >works. > > > > Whatever consultant helped you get setup might have additional > > reccommendations on this topic. Take a look at how work station > >defaults are > > changed & if you want end users doing that. Who should be making > >changes to > > BPCS User Menus? Does every module have a manager who decides who > >all should > > have what kind of access to which areas? Usually the department > >head says > > anyone can inquire into our stuff but only people in our department > >ought to > > be changing the contents & here is a list of users in our > >department. Some > > data is more sensitive than others, such as profit margins. Do you > >want or > > need people to be able to manipulate / view the contents of other > >people's > > reports? > > > > Check BPCS_L archives for remarks I made on BPCS Security several > >months ago. > > > > The things that were the major conceptual stumbling blocks for my > >project > > team personnel regarding comprehending security issues. > > > > 1. The SFC600 Module List works on basis of OPPOSITES. > > > > Some people we have coded NO to all modules, then down below listed > >just the > > programs we want them to be able to run, such as some inquiries & > >pop-up > > menus. > > > > These people are coded N in the list of modules, so that the > >programs listed > > below are what are YES for them. > > > > Some people we want them to be able to do just about anything in a > >particular > > module, such as SFC & JIT, but we say NO to end-of-month stuff like > >SFC905 & > > JIT900. > > > > Those folks are coded Y for the overall modules - so that the stuff > >down > > below on that module are the NO exceptions we do not want them to > >get into > > for whatever reason. > > > > 2. Anyone can make a mistake & take a wrong menu option & get into > >trouble - > > for example we had some people taking some end-of-month options & > >trying to > > exit & in their frustration, causing unwanted updates. > > > > As the block of opposites grows, and as people's security needs to > >be > > changed, we want to keep the picture easy to read, so we organize > >the stuff > > generally A to Z left to right & 1 to 10 top to bottom. > > > > 3. A query can have any name, but to run it from BPCS Menu, it needs > >to be > > named logically within the BPCS naming conventions, avoid risk of > >conflict > > with future PTF, and fit within the security rules. Our > >modifications & > > queries use the 3 letter prefix of ORD INV etc. but by the 6th > >character have > > shifted alphabetical. We have some power users who create queries, > >create > > the CL to run them, and put the CL on BPCS User Menus. This > >capability > > requires command line authority, right SYS stuff for the menus, IBM > > Programmer Authority to compile the CL, and support to cross library > >lists > > when copying a query between 2 different environments. > > > > 4. We can muck with additional rules on how BPCS Security functions, > >and > > change IBM commands, but let's not add to the complexity of Security > >if we do > > not want to make this a full time job. > > > > On IBM Security - you might want to make the first place people go = > >the BPCS > > Menu for their environment, then the second place where they go, > >when they F3 > > out of BPCS to be *SIGNOFF, so only people who know how with either > >command > > line authority, or other stuff, can get into OS/400 menus. > > > > We are in constant struggle of WHY DOES THIS PERSON NEED COMMAND > >LINE > > AUTHORITY? The main reason is they were taught how to do something > >by > > someone who did not think computer security was especially > >important, and are > > now more comfortable navigating via that method than the vanilla > >menus. > > > > We have created CL for BPCS User Menu to do many of the things that > >people > > said were the reasons why they needed access to IBM Menus. > > > > I hope this helps > > > > Al Macintyre > > +--- > > | This is the BPCS Users Mailing List! > > | To submit a new message, send your mail to BPCS-L@midrange.com. > > | To subscribe to this list send email to BPCS-L-SUB@midrange.com. > > | To unsubscribe from this list send email to > >BPCS-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. > > | Questions should be directed to the list owner: dasmussen@aol.com > > +--- > >+--- > >| This is the BPCS Users Mailing List! > >| To submit a new message, send your mail to BPCS-L@midrange.com. > >| To subscribe to this list send email to BPCS-L-SUB@midrange.com. > >| To unsubscribe from this list send email to BPCS-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. > >| Questions should be directed to the list owner: dasmussen@aol.com > >+--- > > +--- > | This is the BPCS Users Mailing List! > | To submit a new message, send your mail to BPCS-L@midrange.com. > | To subscribe to this list send email to BPCS-L-SUB@midrange.com. > | To unsubscribe from this list send email to BPCS-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. > | Questions should be directed to the list owner: dasmussen@aol.com > +--- +--- | This is the BPCS Users Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to BPCS-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to BPCS-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to BPCS-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner: dasmussen@aol.com +---
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