Re: what to use for my web site -- WEB400

The answer is all of the above. You can build the stack on any OS. That
is why XAMPP has variations for Windows, Mac, and the various Linux
distros. You need to break the stack down to get a better idea of what is
going on.

Basically the CMS's are built in PHP... some newer ones will be popping up
in popularity eventually that are written in Ruby on Rails I'm sure, but
for now PHP is the defacto language.

So you have the stack...

Operating System |-> Web/Application Server Stack (web server passes
requests to/from the application server for processing) |-> Application

So what we have are various Application Servers capable of parsing all the
languages. Most of these work independent of the Web Server passing the
request to them. Many of the Web servers run on multiple operating
systems and will serve static HTML web pages but pass on calls to the
Application Server for processing of non static HTML requests (CMS falls
in here as it is written in an executable/parsable language).

Application (CMS, other web app)
Application Server ( with support for languages (PHP, Python, ASP, Ruby on
Rails)
Web Server (Apache, nginx, lighttpd, iis (integrated web/app server),
etc)
Operating System (Windows/Mac/Linux)

So if you are writing in a language that is supported on multiple
platforms... (PHP, Java, Ruby, Python) you can run on pretty much any OS
with most Web/App server combos. ASP/C# based applications will only run
on the Microsoft stack. RPGLE/CGIDEV2 apps will only run on the IBM i
stack.

Only difference between LAMP and WAMP is the L and W (Linux and Windows).
XAMPP is meant to be a generic name for the project that provides various
versions of an Apache/MySQL/PHP stack. But you can replace the MySQL with
other things like Postgre SQL or NoSQL, or SQLite, or.... take the flavor
of the day sql server. The PHP could be any of the above cross platform
languages. So really, your possibilities are almost endless.

Thanks
Bryce Martin
Programmer/Analyst I
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Just curios after skimming through this, what is to be the hosting
hardware
and os for this or is this to be a cloud approach?? I have been dabbling
in
understanding these open source projects using LAMP, WAMP and XAMPP on
both
wndows and linux desktop OS's. I am hoping the answer would be a
SUSE/REDHAT Linux OS on I.

On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 8:08 AM, Bryce Martin <BMartin@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Nathan,
I really like the idea of "Ajaxified" sites where you don't navigate

page

to page, but when you request something its more like it is brought into
where you are. I think that a website built on this could be really
great. The big problem for these types of sites, at least content based
sites, is that search engine indexing of your content is very tricky.
Search engines are getting better at indexing dynamic content, but its

where near as easy.

Things are moving in that direction, but just not quite as fast... as we
all know on this platform... change takes a long time... even on the web
sometimes.

Thanks
Bryce Martin
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> From: Jon Paris

I am a huge fan of using RPG to power your web site where it makes

sense

(i.e. dynamic pages) but why would you bother reinventing the CMS

wheel?

The first thought that came to my mind centered around the message

posted

by Scott Klement in the RPG list yesterday about continuous improvement
which was quite inspirational. His message targeted self improvement,

how

we do things, and what we create. It could also be applied to improving
any product or service, including CMS. With that in mind I began

reviewing

Word Press, Drupal, and Joomla because they have been mentioned quite a
bit in recent discussions. I was considering whether another CMS might
improve upon what's already out there. I came back thinking that would

a tall order. But there are a few features that we've implemented in our
Web portal which could be considered. One is the idea of leaving a

virtual

bread crumb trail as you navigate a site; drilling down deeper. Without

bread crumb trail it is more difficult to navigate back up to where

you've

been or follow the path that got you where you are. Another idea would

to use more
AJAX to build and update pages rather than traditional page at a time
navigation. Another idea would be to enable multiple sections of a site

be open at the same time, and a way to toggle between them, rather than
traditional page at a time navigation. I don't know. Maybe you want to
better integrate static content and dynamic content and record

management

and transaction processing and reporting and batch procedures all under
one roof. Just some thoughts.

-Nathan

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