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Didn't want to go around plugging products (forum rules n all that), but the
tool I know of is EZReorg. It googles, so you can easily find it out on the
web. There is a trial available so the cost may be justifiable if you try it
and like it. And no.. I'm not affiliated, but I was impressed when I was
told the mechanics of it.

Gary 

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Out where?


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Dave,

There are some neat tools out there that will do your re-org on files for
you. One I know of will do a file in just a few seconds during a nightly
window you define, and only if it can get a file lock at the time. Maybe
this is something you want to get in to. 

Gary

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Our Manufacturing and Distribution  warehouses operate 7/24.  We try to
avoid locking users out of the system as much as possible.  The trade off
being files with a lot of deleted records. We've change many of the
application files to reuse deleted records without issue, but never changed
any of the IPG libraries. 

Dave Barry
Programming Manager
Dawn Food Products, Inc.
(517) 780-4354




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Dave,

I think you have answered you own question. Why do you only reorg once per
year?

We do all our PF libs, including the IPG**F4 libs, weekly via CLP in MM run
for Sunday night. Takes around 40 mins per week and cleans up, on average,
over 3 million deleted records per week. The bulk of these are from S21 work
files, MRP and some largeish DRP runs as well as some bespoke addins we
utilise. I couldn't imagine maintaining these records for any longer than a
week.

BR



Rick Allen
Voest Alpine Mining & Tunnelling Pty Limited, IT Office Phone: +61 (0)2 4985
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Has any one changed the reuse deleted records attribute on ICF04PHY or any
other SM files?  Over time this file gets huge because the storage of the
deleted records is never released until you do a file reorg, which is
about once a year for us.

Dave Barry
Programming Manager
Dawn Food Products, Inc.
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