Re: iSeries educational plan with our local University

Eduard,

All of the examples on the www.IceBreak4RPG.com website are written in RPG
and running on the IceBreak Application Server. IceBreak downloads and
installs in less than 30 minutes and does not require CGI, Java, Apache,
WebSphere, or anything else. Educational institutions receive a free copy of
IceBreak Application Server. Just go to the website and request information.
Also, I can provide you with training and instructional material.


Jim
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Jim Cooper
Internet Application Developer Program
Lambton College, Sarnia, ON
Voice: (519) 542-1268 ext. 3219
E-mail: Jim.Cooper@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

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From: rpg400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of
eduard@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tue 4/10/2007 3:53 PM
To: RPG programming on the AS400 / iSeries
Subject: Re: iSeries educational plan with our local University



Thanks Jim,

I have had a look at their website.
Those examples are pretty cool...
I also have visited the Lambton College website.
Did you wrote that with IceBreak?

I guess the 'Academic' option means that IceBreak can be used by
educational institutions as a example tool in educational programs?
That could be an interesting option.
Does IceBreak also have easy to use/understand handson tranings available?
We are now busy with selecting the things to do and what to use to do so.
For sure Website programming with RPGLE is one of the things we want.
We have different options though (free and commercial tools) and will want
to give the students the possibilitie for comparisson.

Can you act as an first form of contact with them or can you provide us
with a contact within IceBreak??

Thanks Again,
Eduard.

----- Original Message ----
From: Jim Cooper <jim.cooper@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: RPG programming on the AS400 / iSeries <rpg400-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 10:14:23 AM
Subject: RE: iSeries educational plan with our local University


Eduard,

The best way to teach RPG Web programming on the System i is to use the
IceBreak Application Server. IceBreak downloads and installs in less than 30
minutes. It does not use CGI, Java, Apache, WebSphere, HATS, or WebSphere.
Visit www.IceBreak4RPG.com and click on RPG Templates for some examples.

Let me know if I can be of help.

Jim
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Jim Cooper
Internet Application Developer Program
Lambton College, Sarnia, ON
Voice: (519) 542-1268 ext. 3219
E-mail: Jim.Cooper@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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From: rpg400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of
eduard@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Mon 3/12/2007 11:51 AM
To: RPG programming on the AS400 / iSeries
Subject: Re: iSeries educational plan with our local University



Jim,

It is the UNA; 'University of the Netherlands Antilles' Located on Curaçao
(Island under the Caribbean Sun).

Regards,
Eduard.




----- Original Message ----
From: Jim Cooper <jim.cooper@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: RPG programming on the AS400 / iSeries <rpg400-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2007 5:26:30 PM
Subject: RE: iSeries educational plan with our local University


Eduard,

Could you tell me where you are located and the name of the university.

Jim


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From: rpg400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of Eduard Sluis
Sent: Sat 3/10/2007 2:48 PM
To: RPG400-L Midrange; Midrange Systems Technical iSeries Discussion;
easy400 easy400
Subject: iSeries educational plan with our local University



Dear all,

We have decided to start a iSeries education program with our local
University.
This also to suit our needs (and those from other iseries using companies)
for students that already have basic iSeries knowledge when they arrive from
University but more important to make them at least acquainted to the
iSeries.
There is already an 720 arranged for them from one of our local banks.
Our local IBM will be asked to help with a license for it so they do not
have to install the system every 70 day's.....
This hardware will suffice for a couple of years (we would liked to have
obtained it as development machine ourselves (would really speed things
up)).

So now the hard work begins, WHAT and HOW TO DO???....
We will need to develop an curriculum.

We want to have the thing practical so the students can experience the
operating-system and the very many and different ways to do things with it.
We want them to experience the different forms iSeries applications can
get (5250, Webfaced, Websites (CGIDEV2), Communication interfaces over
HTTP/FTP and there uses (SOAP interfaces, Webservices, XML and so on),
Modern EJB based applications, and so on).
We want them to experience how easy and effective you can develop on the
iSeries with RPGLE (so they can compare that with the far more elaborate
ways of programming in C++, Java, .Net, etc).
We want them to understand the concepts of application-servers compared to
other types of servers or computers (and why they need to have different
capabilities).
We want them to understand why and when you have to choose to automate
solutions on these types of servers.
We want to open up their minds and make them know that the iSeries exists
and that this type of automation is very viable and versatile and in the
For-Front of automation development (besides it is fun to be in the iSeries
world).

So.... we want a lot!
But we will probably get 7 weeks of 4 hours time to do it.
If we do it right, probably some more time the other year.

To do this we need some help.
All of us know so much more on how and where to get existing stuff that
can be very util for our goals (just send me the links).
All of us could think of small things you could contribute (you just have)
and adds on to the to be created idea that so much is possible on and with
the iSeries (would be nice if it works)(The 720 will have V5R2M0 or V5R3M0
(or better when IBM decides to help)).

Where are we looking for?
- Examples of Curricula that could be usefull.
- Existing short (few hours) illustrative labs/tutorials aimed on
different expects of the OS (Multi-tasking, security, spool-handling,
different standard available interfaces, concepts of subsystems, concept of
logical partitioning,... ,???, !!!).
- Example applications that show the divers way's of things to do and the
many possibilities that can be explored to achieve a goal (Sending mail,
accessing an web-service or Soap-interface, XML handling, Creating Excel
sheets based on iSeries data, websites with specific features, Combining
functions available in native iSeries with Java and PASE to achieve goals
not that common on the iSeries, rock-solid iSeries DataBaseDriven
applications (Ok, those we have ourselves), embedded SQL, and so much more).
- Existing hands on and illustrative labs/tutorials aimed on iSeries
development aspects (Starting with WDSC, RPGLE basics, ILE environment
(Procedures, Binding libraries, Modules, ServicePrograms (what they are and
how they interact.)and that results in working 'simple' applications.
- Articles of use for the other aspects mentioned above.
- All the things we might forget and should be included.
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Thanks in advance.
Any help is appreciated.

Eduard.
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