RPGIII (was Re: EMAIL Syntax Validation)

>From my experience I'd say at least 40% still do RPGIII.
 Now, half of them are happy to let you use RPGIV if it's
available on their OS.

In my consulting and sofware sales, you'd be surprised how
many are still on V4Rx and not planning to upgrade for some
time.  Which is why I try to make my software compatible
down to at LEAST V4R3, or even some V3R2s.  Some I have
requires V4R5, but that's mainly because of available APIs
and functionality.

I remember a couple months ago I made the switch from Min
OS os V3R2 to V4R3 on one piece and got a couple emails at
least.. :)  

They're out there...  In this "bubble" (the list) it's hard
to imagine, but it is.

That's also a reason I haven't done much free-format RPG.
 Because my software is compiled down to a specific
version, free-format is out of the question.  I also feel
it doesn't help performance, which is my main concern, but
that's another topic...  :)

Brad
www.bvstools.com


On Tue, 29 Nov 2005 14:24:00 -0600
 "Shannon O'Donnell" <sodonnell@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> That's a very naive statement about not taking a job if
> they won't let you program in RPGIV. I suspect you are
> either very young or you have led a very sheltered
> professional life. 
> 
> If you are a contractor and you want to eat, make your
> house payment and buy your kids clothes, you do whatever
> you have to to bring home that paycheck. It's that
> simple.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
>     From: "Wilt, Charles"<CWilt@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>     Sent: 11/29/05 2:14:33 PM
>     To: "RPG programming on the AS400 /
> iSeries"<rpg400-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>     Subject: RE: EMAIL Syntax Validation
>       Bob,
>     
>     Don't take this personally as it's not meant to be
> but...
>     
>     Every time I hear, "I'm just a contractor, I have to
> do as the client
>     wants."
>     
>     It bugs the crap out of me.  It often seems to be the
> contractor taking
>     the easy way out.  Sometimes, because the contractor
> doesn't really
>     understand the "right" way.  But usually, the
> contractor doesn't care as
>     long as he get paid.
>     
>     Granted, I've got a day job...so the contracting I've
> done is on the
>     side, I don't depend on it. But I for one, would
> never accept a job
>     involving new development where at minimum RPG IV
> couldn't be used.
>     
>     I can't believe there's that many clients out there
> still insisting on
>     RPG III that you can't say no and stay in business.
>  I think the problem
>     is nobody wants to say NO and true down the money.
>     
>     How about it all you full time self employed
> consultants out there:
>       Do most of your clients insist on RPG III?
>       Have you ever turned down a project due to a
> irrational RPG III
>     requirement?
>       Do you really try to show your RPG III clients the
> benefits of RPG IV
>     and/or ILE RPG?
>     
>     
>     If so many clients still insist on RPG III, then we
> have only ourselves
>     to blame.
>     
>     
>     
>     Charles Wilt
>     --
>     iSeries Systems Administrator / Developer
>     Mitsubishi Electric Automotive America
>     ph: 513-573-4343
>     fax: 513-398-1121
>       
>     
>     > -----Original Message-----
>     > From: rpg400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx 
>     > [mailto:rpg400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> Bob Voltz
>     > Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 12:43 PM
>     > To: RPG programming on the AS400 / iSeries
>     > Subject: RE: EMAIL Syntax Validation
>     > 
>     > Ha, Ha...sooooo funny.
>     >    
>     >   Can you say CONTRACTOR working for a CLIENT and
> going by 
>     > THEIR rules?
>     >    
>     >   I knew you could....
>     >   
>     
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