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Hi Troy


I don't see DSPFLD on a machine I have full authority on. I had recommended DSPFD below - is that what you meant?


If not, I'm curious to know what DSPFLD is and where it comes from - TAA Tools, perhaps?

I'm also curious - does the tool you speak of tell you which tables an LF is based on? DSPFLD sounds like DSPFFD, I also googled for DSPFLD and found a 30-year-old QMQRY thing, as well as a toolset called Projex4i and some other stuff - had never heard of Projex4i, anyone know it? Also something suggested by Nick Litten based on the QADB* tables - I have to give the same caveat - IBM locks those down pretty well. I just did a little test, first on a machine where my USRCLS is *SECOFR - I can do anything, of course. Then on our company system - DSPPFM QADBXREF gave me a not authorized message. So did trying to take the SQL statement that SYSTABLES is - over QADBXREF and another QADB* table - and rightfully so.


Many in these lists have elevated authority - be careful about recommending things you can just do - same challenge if you're a software developer and test everything with your special profile, not what a customer will be using.


Regards
Vern


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Dspfld on logical.

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Hi Justin


The QADB* PFs and LFs are severely restricted - IBM do not want them accidentally corrupted. If you are able to work with them, you would seem to have some elevated level of authority to them. I think it is strongly advised not to use them in programs that regular users will be running

The JSON in the recent SYSFILES can be used nicely by using the JSON_TABLE function, I would think. But if you are on pre-7.5 release, I recommend the DSPFD thing - it's been around forever, safe, reliable. And you can't trust that IBM won't put tighter reins on these "system" files.


The reason I know is related to a tool I once wrote that used the QADB* files and failed when lower authority levels tried to run things.


Cheers
Vern


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Both QSYS2.SYSFILES and QSYS.QADBLDEP give the answer, but SYSFILES returns it as JSON. I prefer not to parse JSON if I don't have to.

Thanks guys!
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