Rob,
I'm currently reviewing P9 disk options and other features.
I'd be interested in the specifics in your "Zero chance of SAN".
Also be interested in your P9 config options for DASD, fiber, Ethernet, etc.
Paul
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From: MIDRANGE-L [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rob Berendt
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2018 3:19 PM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: RE: Power 8 to Power 9 swap out
I learned my lesson the hard way not to have VIOS host internal storage.
Erased the disk and started over. We use IBM i to host internal disk.
VIOS is solely for Ethernet and Fiber Channel (and on Power 8, DVD).
We looked at SAN storage not too long ago. At what would have been the most opportune time for anyone to do it. We were migrating HA solutions.
Buying all new disk. Etc. SAN disk with Power HA lost out to new internal disks with Quick-EDD. And we even have some Windows server SAN (vmware shop). And we keep our network consultant busy so we have some familiarity with SAN switches. At this time there is a ZERO chance of SAN for our Power systems.
Rob Berendt
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From: Jim Oberholtzer <midrangel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'"
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Date: 03/16/2018 03:08 PM
Subject: RE: Power 8 to Power 9 swap out
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The how do you do VIOS without a SAN is really easy. Don't. Get a SAN.
If you want to use VIOS to virtualize Ethernet and Tape, go for it,
however
it's not really meant for IBM i production I/O loads with internal
storage.
VIOS will require a dedicated DASD controller to build. It cannot be run
as
a client.
With a SAN migration to the new environment is really simple.
Configure SAN/VIOS/Fibre Network to support partitions (medium difficulty)
Add new DASD units from SAN to partitions (basic knowledge)
Leave one drive non-configured (it will be your new load source)
Start removing old DASD units (easy and while system is running and live)
Migrate Load source (that requires downtime to copy the load source drive)
Done.
That would eliminate all the i hosting i and the I/O performance is
significantly better (assuming a properly sized SAN)
This is coming from a guy that swore to never go to external storage only
a
few short years ago.
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Jim Oberholtzer
Agile Technology Architects
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From: MIDRANGE-L [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rob
Berendt
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2018 1:56 PM
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Subject: Power 8 to Power 9 swap out
Think 3 different Power 8's being upgraded to Power 9's.
Somewhat similar configurations.
- Two lpars of VIOS on each redundantly serving up DVD, fiber tape,
Ethernet.
- Each VIOS lpar has their own CEC mirrored pair of disk drives.
- Hosting lpar of IBM i on each
- Four guest lpars of IBM i on each
- lpar of AIX on 2 of the 3.
We may move all disk back to the system ASP. Currently each rack has a
system ASP and one secondary ASP. No iASPs. No SAN (except VTL tape).
I'm wondering how you do the VIOS. I've already forgotten the Power 6 to
Power 8 migration. I don't think we used VIOS on Power 6. That's right,
we
had separate ethernet and fc for each lpar.
Is there some sort of magic "dump the vios config to script" or some such
thing?
Also, the sysplan migration?
We're thinking save, rip, replace, etc. We weren't thinking put the New
Power 9 into the rack and just move cables later after getting vios ready.
Maybe stupidity on my part but it would ugly my rack config. Then again,
I
could always move it again... Hmm... Get the power 9 fired up. Get VIOS
configed on it. Power it off. Remove from rack, then replace later...
Rob Berendt
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