Re: Email direct from IBM i without relay (was: New lower cost IBM i announced)

On Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 8:19 PM, Nathan Andelin <nandelin@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I just ran a quick test,and here's what GMail says over port 25 without
TLS ...

It's not clear to me what you're testing. But we send email directly (no
need for any kind of relay service) from our IBM i server to addresses such
as:

I'm sure it's not clear. I was replying to someone else.

Prompt CHGSMTPA. Let me know the values for mail router, firewall and
forwarding hub domain. That will clear the air. Maybe let us know what
you're using to send email as well (ie, SNDDST, etc)

example@xxxxxxxxx

Google (on the receiving end) doesn't require TLS or authentication in that
case.

No, because your mail router delivers it! That's for your mail router to
deal with. All we care as the sender is that we're using the proper mail
router to pass the email off to.

The connection between the client (your PC, an IBM i or your phone) needs
to connect to the proper mail router to deliver mail in most cases. What
do you use for your PC email? What ISP? What are the SMTP, POP, and IMAP
settings? You've set that up before, right?

Now, you CAN send email with a from address of something@xxxxxxxxx and

bypass the GMail server (ie, deliver directly to the recipients email
server).

If you're sending email from IBM i application, why would you suggest a
sender's address as something@xxxxxxxxx? They should be sending from a
domain name that references back to your IBM i server.

Why shouldn't we be able to send from a Gmail account, Nathan? Or any
account or domain?

And if it does go through it will be a spoofed email, but that's
not using GSuite/GMail for the SMTP server as it should be.

I'm not aware of anyone suggesting spoofing. Aren't we talking about
sending email from IBM i servers? Why would we pretend that we're sending
from gmail accounts?

You should be able to use the IBM i to send from ANY email address. All we
need to do is make sure that when we do we are using the proper mail router
for that account. A company can have more than one domain and for each
domain one of many sending addresses.

I can send from Yahoo, Gmail, BVSTools.com, Maplestonemn.com, Outlook,
Office all from my IBM i.

Some of my customers send from many different accounts at a domain. Others
send form many domains. Some only send from one address and one domain.
And some actually use a gmail.com address.

That's why a system wide setting for things like mail router,
authentication user and pw, etc don't always work.