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Actually at the end of the Apollo space program, all the plans and tooling needed to build a Saturn 5 were tossed out.

It did have the heavy lift capacity to go to Mars, they built it that way.

We don't even have plans anymore.

Stupid, but then again this is a bit off topic and I'll shut up now.


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Jim Oberholtzer
Agile Technology Architects


-----Original Message-----
From: MIDRANGE-L [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Gerald Magnuson
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2017 11:21 AM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Re: Geared Down, Low Cost Power IBM i Box Rumored - How Low Can You Go?

I just read a Q & A somewhere:
Q: Why can't we build Saturn 5 rockets for Mars missions?
A: they were designed to work on 8bit 64k software...



On Tue, Feb 7, 2017 at 11:01 AM, Gerald Magnuson <gmagqcy.midrange@xxxxxxxxx
wrote:

They were still using v4r3 and old COBOL and RPG. As long as those
programs
migrate without much problems they could use a smaller, cooler machine.

the key words, which may very well disqualify the action is "migrate
without much problems"...



On Tue, Feb 7, 2017 at 10:51 AM, Roberto José Etcheverry Romero <
yggdrasil.raiker@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I concur. yesterday I went to see a new customer that had a dead
AS400 (yes, a model 150 with only 2 drives and not mirrored). They
have the same software (with upgrades done by a consulting
programmer) that they originally wrote for that machine and they had
no need for more. They are a prime candidate por the IBMini that the
IT Jungle article mentions. They were still using v4r3 and old COBOL
and RPG. As long as those programs migrate without much problems they
could use a smaller, cooler machine.
The customer base exists, whether they finally make it or not is a
different tune. Even the express edition machines are hard to sell in
this country, especially to those kind of shops that are so small and
have so little need for iron that the only reason for upgrading is a
hardware failure or an SSL algorithm mismatch...

Roberto

On Tue, Feb 7, 2017 at 11:53 AM, Justin Taylor <JUSTIN@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

Let me tell you about my first hardware upgrade. In '03 we
replaced a
'97
vintage AS/400. During that six year period, I'd say we had single
digit
growth. The new server gave about 2100% more processing power.

Will the new system be right for me? Maybe, maybe not. But for
those people in this discussion with 5 or less users, almost certainly.




-----Original Message-----
From: Rob Berendt [mailto:rob@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2017 4:06 PM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: Geared Down, Low Cost Power IBM i Box Rumored - How
Low Can You Go?

I guess just curious. A lot of people think people will just
gobble
stuff
up but it's not right for them. You're right, I know it's not
right for me. I just wondered if people thought it would be right
for people like you and whether or not you thought it really would be right for you.


Rob Berendt
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to: 2505 Dekko Drive
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