Re: AS/400e 170 IPL failure -- MIDRANGE-L

I think what you are doing sounds like fun. Not sure why people keep saying to chuck it.

Once when I was really done with a system , I let my 9 year old have at it with a whole set of tools. Then we got the saws, then the hammers.

You may be at that point but this thread is interesting.

On Oct 1, 2016, at 9:22 AM, Jim Oberholtzer <midrangel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

No license keys in DST, they exist in IBM i .

The load source drive may work enough to get you to DST, but Larry's right
the box is toast. The "H" in the DPH001 drive name indicates read only,
only one way to fix that and that is to reinitialize the drive. RAID set is
gone, the box is an interesting relic, and that's about it.

Call "Got Junk" Your wasting time if you don't have media and/or Keys.

--
Jim Oberholtzer
Agile Technology Architects

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From: MIDRANGE-L [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Robert
Sent: Friday, September 30, 2016 11:27 AM
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Subject: Re: AS/400e 170 IPL failure

But possibly not zero after all. As I had nothing to lose, I stopped Parity
Set 1 and tried a B M IPL. It gave me a disk error warning (I wrote down the
details in case I might need them later) and allowed me into DST - as
QSECOFR, no less!

Display Disk Configuration Status told me that ASP1 was unprotected, Disk
Unit 1 was configured (the serial # matched one of the drives in Parity Set
1) and Disk Unit 3 (not a s/n from PS1 was missing).

I reset the system password while I was in there and asked it to IPL.It sat
for a while, then put me back in DST, showing C600450A on the control panel.

So, that's progress of a sort. I'm further along than I was before, at
least.

Now, is there any way of retrieving the license keys from the DST, or does
it have to complete an IPL before it can see them?

--
Robert

On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 7:41 PM, DrFranken <midrange@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
In this case minuscule is indeed approaching zero. :-(

With IBM i and it's predecessors RAID 1 is referred to as Mirroring.
So because he is seeing RAID sets it's RAID 5. (Recall RAID 6 showed
up with MUCH newer hardware than this old 170!) With Mirroring the
drives on their own appear unprotected but the ASP itself is flagged
Mirrored. There will also be two drives #1 and two #2 etc.

I honestly think the previous owner pulled a couple drives as spares
or to repair another machine and the system ASP is a gonner.

- Larry "DrFranken" Bolhuis

www.Frankeni.com
www.iDevCloud.com - Personal Development IBM i timeshare service.
www.iInTheCloud.com - Commercial IBM i Cloud Hosting.

On 9/29/2016 8:21 PM, Robert wrote:

You are, of course, correct. I was misremembering how RAID 5 worked.
Two dead drives and it's shot. Degraded has often panned out well for
me, but if this is RAID 5 it's beyond degraded.

The only faint hope that is left is that while I'm assuming that it's
using RAID5, I don't know how to verify that. So there's a miniscule
chance that it's using mirroring (or RAID 1) instead. Said chance is
likely vanishingly small, however.

The work with disks functionality is very limited, when you D IPL to
the DST, so I'm not sure how to look into that.

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