Re: New RFE for your perusal

There's a lot to IBM i type objects.

This isn't unique to native IBM i things. Any time production changes are
done outside of an automated process, well, there are going to be problems
and man hours spent.

Tyranny Of The Urgent usually wins in the short term. It's getting those
urgent changes back into the automated deployment that makes all the
difference.

Aaron Bartell
litmis.com - Services for open source on IBM i


On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 9:08 AM, <rob@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

There's a lot to IBM i type objects.

For example, you change a printer file on your developement machine from
source.
You promote it to production. Does your promotion stop and ask you if
someone went and did a CHGPRTF and modified some parameter (default
printer or some such thing) outside of the change management? Or does it
just clobber that change?

Or, if someone did a CHGPGM outside of change management?

We actually run into this kind of stuff quite often. Or used to...


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From: Aaron Bartell <aaronbartell@xxxxxxxxx>
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 02/05/2016 09:43 AM
Subject: Re: New RFE for your perusal
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Hi Buck,

Git has one big issue that makes it only marginally useful: it's a source

control system and it doesn't know anything at all about IBM i objects.

I wouldn't consider this a fair assessment of Git. Git manages source
file
versions. You can add additional software (i.e. "make") to create build
scripts and the like.


Aaron Bartell
litmis.com - Services for open source on IBM i


On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 8:34 AM, Buck Calabro <kc2hiz@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On 2/5/2016 9:21 AM, Mark Murphy/STAR BASE Consulting Inc. wrote:

I have entered a new RFE:

http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/rfe/execute?use_case=viewRfe&CR_ID=83582

This RFE is about moving forward in development with a goal of being

able to do RPG development in conjunction with GIT. I know some people
already do this, but it seems a bit hard to do. I am looking for a more
hierarchical approach. An enhancement to the iProject perspective.

It is hard to do within the context of RDi iProjects. I think IBM's
intended solution is one of the Rational products. Git has one big
issue that makes it only marginally useful: it's a source control system
and it doesn't know anything at all about IBM i objects.

I don't have the budget for a real IBM i-aware Change Management system,
else I'd be using that.

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