Possibly the expired idea is not the appropriate thought
....but the following should be run from time to time
....we run it once a week
....you would be surprised what a difference it can make
....as we had a situation similar to this when we went to v6r1

StrMntBrm RgzBrmDb(*Yes)

Right now, I can't remember what it was
......but a policy parameter changed defaults on v6r1 and this was part of

Although the physical tapes actually expire
....the data containing that info in QUSRBRM does not get cleared out

Try this, I bet it helps


-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jim Oberholtzer
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 5:28 AM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Re: BRMS suddenly requires second tape?

Interesting thought Terry but I can't think of any process in BRMS
maintenance that might cause an extra tape mount. If one file on the tape
is still current (not expired) then BRMS will not expire the tape volume

Still, running BRMS maintenance every day is still a best practice.

Jim Oberholtzer
Chief Technical Architect
Agile Technology Architects

On 9/13/2012 7:12 AM, rob@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
BRMS tells you what tapes to mount. It's not going to tell you to
mount a tape if the tape has unexpired files on it. For example, if I
use BRMS to back up my daily data and put 14 days retention on it, and
my quarterly data and put 400 days retention on it, BRMS won't tell
me to call Iron Mountain and ask for those tapes until those days are

I suppose you could have done something outside of BRMS, like stored a
file on there with permanent retention.

Rob Berendt
-- IBM Certified System Administrator - IBM i 6.1 Group Dekko Dept
1600 Mail to: 2505 Dekko Drive Garrett, IN 46738 Ship to: Dock 108
6928N 400E Kendallville, IN 46755 http://www.dekko.com From: "Terry
Nonamaker" <TNonamaker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: "'Midrange Systems
Technical Discussion'" <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, Date: 09/12/2012
05:43 PM Subject: RE: BRMS suddenly requires second tape? Sent by:
midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx I have not read all the other
responses But, are you sure the tapes are being properly expired thru
BRMS maintenance ......has anything, however subtle, changed in your
normal process that this might not run? Just a thought Terry Nonamaker
-----Original Message----- From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John McKee Sent:
Wednesday, September 12, 2012 2:14 PM To: Midrange Systems Technical
Discussion Subject: Re: BRMS suddenly requires second tape? I know you
esponded that it was not likely. I am wondering what using the tape
less might do to accumulating temporary write errors. Wouldn't the
tape still wear out, even if it took a lot longer to do so? I was just
tossing that out from my ancient experience with 9 track tape.
Watching the drive toss several feet for a temporary write was
interesting to watch. Running a PRTERRLOG and checking the general
errors and errors specific to tapes from the past few days still might
show something, wouldn't it? I have no knowledge of BRMS, so, again,
this goes back to old experience. John McKee On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at
3:42 PM, Gerald Kern <jp2558@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
"I'm not a BRMS expert but to me having that QUSRBRM on a separate
tape would be a big advantage if you had to do a full system restore."

Agreed Larry - but the cost for tapes just for that would be

"Could tape have temporary write errors? I'm wondering if bad
areas are being skipped."

Not likely John since we use different tapes each day.

" I print this to a PDF file on a daily basis and store it on 3
servers in multiple countries."

Whoa Rob - I thought I was cool just by having my reports in pdf's
in gmail and yahoo...;) But three countries = uber cool!

Thanks, Jerry

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