RE: Modernizing applications (was: Explaining single level store to non ipeople)

WTG Trevor!!


Sharon Wintermute

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To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Re: Modernizing applications (was: Explaining single level
store to non ipeople)

Bob,

Your not-so-humble-opinion is rather terrifying, and does not match the
opinions of many IBMers and ex-IBMers. You seem to be alone in this FUD.
While many people have been predicting the demise of the AS/400 for a
long
time, there is still a strong community of iCustomers who will continue
to
use this platform for many many years to come. On this forum of
i-advocates,
you come and spread fear? Why would you do that?

And, does this mean that all along, you have been pushing EGL so people
can
leave the platform? If you are not at IBM any more, then there does not
seem
to be as much anti-i rhetoric inside IBM, so maybe there is a future for
IBM
i now that the koolaid is no longer being drunk? If there is no one from
IBM
to tell us RPG is dead any more, maybe it has a glorious future!

Me and many of my peers are working with RPG applications, web enabling
them, service enabling them, and modernizing them. Your view is
obviously
very narrow and does not reflect the real world.

I remain positive about the future of IBM i, and will remain a voice
against
the noise you continue to make.

Trevor


On 8/19/09 10:30 AM, "Bob Cancilla" <bob.cancilla@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Walden,

Been a long time, but I left IBM and am back in the mainstream. Sadly

the

iSeries aka IBM i Operating System is on its way to extinction IMHO

and in a

very short period of time. Read details in my blog:

Today the shift in technologies to Web 2.0 based technology, AJAX and
browser centric tooling around JavaScript, Google Widgets, Dojo, etc.
coupled with SOA or at least Web Service based applications are the
direction of today and our beloved old iSeries does not play well in

the

space.

At IBM I was an advocate for EGL and still am. Java is great, but too

over

the top complex and time consuming for business application

development.

EGL leverages Java and Web 2.0 but is fast and easy.

PHP is great but too complex and doesn't do enough. Its really no

more than

old Net.Data was, or CGIDEV2 is -- a bridge between programs or data

on the

server and HTML and JavaScript on the browser. You have to learn all

of the

technologies you are using.