I agree. Upgrading is the prudent thing to do. And being it's the consensus from the midrange community (this list) it's hard to argue. It's just in the past, hardware always forced our hand. We'll need to do it sooner or later so why not do it now? That's my thinking.
Bryan Burns
iSeries Specialist
ECHO, Incorporated
Lake Zurich, Illinois
-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of rob@xxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 3:44 PM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: RE: operating system upgrade
When things hit, they always hit at the worst possible way, and at the
worst possible time. For instance, we were just getting around to having
our wintel servers covered under maintenance. Many already are. However
one died. And the technician on site decided it just needed this one raid
card. It's a $1,200+ card. Called IBM (who was going to do the
maintenance). Since it's not set up it's on Time and Materials. Arrived
at 10am and left at 4pm. Just swapping in the new part ended up not being
the trick. Labor is what, $200/hr?
Server ran our company voice mail. That being down was not popular.
Especially since we've pretty much done away with any receptionists and
personnel is running very lean and to dump a couple of them into
receptionist duty wasn't the most popular thing with them.
So, if you stay on V5R3 and something occurs where you need IBM support
and NOW! you will be hurting.
If it takes too much time now to do the upgrade, when you can plan it out
peacefully, how long will it take when you're in a world of hurt?
Rob Berendt
--
Group Dekko Services, LLC
Dept 01.073
Dock 108
6928N 400E
Kendallville, IN 46755
http://www.dekko.com
From:
"Wintermute, Sharon" <Sharon.Wintermute@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To:
"Midrange Systems Technical Discussion" <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date:
02/19/2009 03:11 PM
Subject:
RE: operating system upgrade
Sent by:
midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
And on the other side of the fence, I have clients still running on
V3R7 since they don't want to change the 150. Yes they know they are
taking a risk. Their intention is to buy another "used" box when the
150 dies. If that means they have to run their business via paper,
that's the MANAGEMENT decision not the TECHNICAL STAFF.
Sharon Wintermute
-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Lukas Beeler
Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 1:45 PM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Re: operating system upgrade
On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 20:33, Burns, Bryan <Bryan_Burns@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Management needs a more compelling reason to go to V4R5 than the fact
that our OS is ''old".
It takes a lot of time and effort to do an upgrade so they want to
know what it buys us. Typically, we're forced to do upgrade
the OS because of new hardware.
With an unsupported OS, all you can do is HOPE that you won't have a
problem. Because noone is going to help you.
Upgrade _now_, while you're still fully supported. This is not a
decision that should be made by management and instead by technical
staff.
OTOH, if management does not want to upgrade, make sure you get a
written disclaimer from them that they'll be running a configuration
unsupported by IBM.
--
Read my blog at
http://projectdream.org
--
midrange.com
