Oh my Al .. I do remember that session ... As I recall .. The TLCs had to run out and get a case of Diet Coke just to keep you cooled off!
Thanks for the help!
Mary
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From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Al Barsa
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 11:10 PM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: RE: Quiescing the system for backup
Mary,
I do not agree. There are lots of ways to get at the database other than
through QINTER.
What I suggest to people at my SWA session at COMMON (which you have seen,
as you were the TLC in NOLA you had me in a *VERYHOT room, when I
threatened to strip to keep cool [the audience strongly discouraged this
activity]):
Follow the following steps in a program. Never try this ad-hoc:
1. Achieve a restricted state. This can be determined programmatically
by executing an ENDSBS command monitoring for a CPF1035 message (isn't it
disgusting that I remembered the CPF message ID?) repeatedly in a loop (say
every 'n' seconds), and then going forward to step #2. Make sure that you
are not in an endless loop by putting a time-out by virtue of a counted to
end at some time, say 30 minutes.
2. Starting a private subsystem, call it QDUMMY.
3. Ending subsystem QSYSWRK *IMMED, because starting by any subsystem
starting to start, in violation to the laws of work management.
4. Submitting a job that:
o clears a private message queue
o submits a job that waits on the SWA quiescence message in that
queue
o doing the SWA request specifying that message queue which has a
break program that starts the controlling subsystem (I know that there are
a lot of variables there, but that's life.)
Al
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I think that was to ensure that no one could log in ... However taking
QINTER down should take care of that ... (It was in the program from our
software vendor .. I just never questioned why until now)
Thanks!
Mary
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From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ingvaldson, Scott
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 3:50 PM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: RE: Quiessing the system for backup
Are you backing up your interface?
Regards,
Scott Ingvaldson
System i Administrator
GuideOne Mutual Insurance Company
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From: Kern, Mary T [mailto:MKern4@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 2:27 PM
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Subject: RE: Quiessing the system for backup
I can't sign on if I end the interface ...
Thanks!
Mary
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Mary Kern
Director of Information Services
University of Toledo Foundation
2801 W Bancroft St Mail Stop 319, Toledo, OH 43606
Voice: (419) 530-5611 (800) 640-0147 Fax: 419-530-2895
Email: Mary.kern4@xxxxxxxxxxx
"Three things in human life are important. The first is to be kind.
The second is to be kind. The third is to be kind. -- Henry James
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-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ingvaldson, Scott
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 3:20 PM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: RE: Quiessing the system for backup
Yes, leave TCP up so you can sign on from home when you have a problem!
Regards,
Scott Ingvaldson
System i Administrator
GuideOne Mutual Insurance Company
-----Original Message-----
From: Kern, Mary T [mailto:MKern4@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 2:03 PM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Quiessing the system for backup
Several years ago IBM advised me not to end the TCP servers and the host
servers but rather to end the TCP/IP interface(s). In addition I was
advised not to end QSYSWRK. Now I am ready to ask why ... does anyone know
why this might be true or have better advice?
Thanks!
Mary
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Director of Information Services
University of Toledo Foundation
2801 W Bancroft St Mail Stop 319, Toledo, OH 43606
Voice: (419) 530-5611 (800) 640-0147 Fax: 419-530-2895
Email: Mary.kern4@xxxxxxxxxxx
"Three things in human life are important. The first is to be kind.
The second is to be kind. The third is to be kind. -- Henry James
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