Re: Green screen to Gui

[Booth Martin <booth@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

My response is this: So far I have seen nothing that truly goes in fast. 
 It seems that you still get any two out of three:  accurate, fast, cheap.

I understand that Visual Age has not gained traction.  I do not 
understand why it hasn't.

The reason I like the Visual Age solution is that it fits so seamlessly 
with what you are already doing.

When faced with the same situation you face, we set some guidelines for 
ourselves first.
1 - It had to use our existing data.
2 - Users had to be comfortable with it.
3 - Severe disruptions were unacceptable.
4 - It had to be accurate.
5 - It had to be affordable.
6 - People wanted instant change; we decided we could give constant 
change & improvement and show a pattern of successes.
7 - we wanted a solution where we could cherry pick what we would change 
to GUI, and not be required to have an all-or-nothing application-wide 
solution.

With VARPG we could give the sales people and bosses their needs with 
VARPG and not need to go back and redo all the standard stuff that 
already worked.  As time went by we could swap out pieces of 
applications, with no real disruptions.  In the end we were surprised 
how much we got done, how quickly it happened, and how happy the sales 
staff and bosses were with the true Windows applications.





Robin Moore wrote:
> Shannon  and Booth .. I don't know much about IBM's Visual Age solution ,
> but I'm looking for something to get a fast result on many apps, because I
> don't really want to go to a package. 
>
> Robin M. Moore
>
> Francis Marion University
>
> Director of Administrative Computing Services
>
> P.O. Box 100547
>
> Florence, SC 29501
>
> W 843-661-1393  
>
> rmoore@xxxxxxxxxxx
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Booth Martin
> Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 5:54 PM
> To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
> Subject: Re: Green screen to Gui
>
> What is your response to IBM's Visual Age solution?  Its pretty good if 
> you intend to stay on a Windows desktop environment.
>
> (A couple of screen shots: This is from 2003, but at least it shows what 
> is available.
>
> http://www.martinvt.com/Visual_Age_RPG/Image_Viewer/image_viewer.html
> or
> http://tinyurl.com/22a3cr
>
>
>
> Robin Moore wrote:
> > Hi All 
> >
> > I have been looking at the following products, and would appreciate any
> > information. We are in the process of finding the best fit for the future.
> > We currently do have S36 code and RPGLE code running on a i5 520 box.
> > Looking for a product that will give us a windows look and feel.
> >
> >  
> >
> > Lansa's RAMP
> >
> >  
> >
> > Asna's  Visual RPG for MS .net and/or Monarch
> >
> >  
> >
> > Seagull's Legasuite tools use to be JWalk I think
> >
> >  
> >
> > Maybe there are some better ones out there also.. These are the best by
> what
> > I have seen.
> >
> >  
> >
> > Thanks in advance
> >
> > Robin 
> >
> >  
> >
> > Robin M. Moore
> >
> > Francis Marion University
> >
> > Director of Administrative Computing Services
> >
> > P.O. Box 100547
> >
> > Florence, SC 29501
> >
> > W 843-661-1393  
> >
> > rmoore@xxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> >