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Dear Aaron,
 
Yes, that kind of medium and kind of applications I'm looking for.
It shows practical application of possibilities and integration between 
normally separated development environments.
Those are the things that places the iSeries apart.
 
I also have had a look on what is available at http://mowyourlawn.com and I've 
seen several topics that could really suit our goal.
If we could make them to (if they not already are) 'simple' and working 
examples, they can be used to show the possibilities and to inspire the 
students to try and explore more advanced application of the techniques.
 
Great job Aaron!
I've also seen topics about techniques we know are available but we/I simple 
lack the time to investigate further and mold it to something applicable in our 
applications.... exactly those things are great stuff for internships to figure 
out and make it to something wonderful.
 
Kind regards,
Eduard sluis.
 
----- Original Message ----
From: albartell <albartell@xxxxxxxxx>
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>; easy400 
easy400 <easy400group@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 8:16:42 AM
Subject: RE: iSeries educational plan with our local University


Kudos on taking initiative Eduard!  Sounds like a fun venture.

I am doing a session on RPGMail (see http://mowyourlawn.com) at
SystemiDeveloper conference in a few weeks.  To present at that session I
had to sit down and do a formal power point showing how to use the open
source RPG and Java tooling to send email from the iSeries.  Is that a
medium you are looking for?  It could fill one lecture slot if nothing else.

HTH,
Aaron Bartell
http://mowyourlawn.com



-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Eduard Sluis
Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2007 1:49 PM
To: RPG400-L Midrange; Midrange Systems Technical iSeries Discussion;
easy400 easy400
Subject: iSeries educational plan with our local University

Dear all,

We have decided to start a iSeries education program with our local
University.
This also to suit our needs (and those from other iseries using companies)
for students that already have basic iSeries knowledge when they arrive from
University but more important to make them at least acquainted to the
iSeries. 
There is already an 720 arranged for them from one of our local banks.
Our local IBM will be asked to help with a license for it so they do not
have to install the system every 70 day's.....
This hardware will suffice for a couple of years (we would liked to have
obtained it as development machine ourselves (would really speed things
up)). 

So now the hard work begins, WHAT and HOW TO DO???....
We will need to develop an curriculum.

We want to have the thing practical so the students can experience the
operating-system and the very many and different ways to do things with it.
We want them to experience the different forms iSeries applications can get
(5250, Webfaced, Websites (CGIDEV2), Communication interfaces over HTTP/FTP
and there uses (SOAP interfaces, Webservices, XML and so on), Modern EJB
based applications, and so on).
We want them to experience how easy and effective you can develop on the
iSeries with RPGLE (so they can compare that with the far more elaborate
ways of programming in C++, Java, .Net, etc).
We want them to understand the concepts of application-servers compared to
other types of servers or computers (and why they need to have different
capabilities).
We want them to understand why and when you have to choose to automate
solutions on these types of servers. 
We want to open up their minds and make them know that the iSeries exists
and that this type of automation is very viable and versatile and in the
For-Front of automation development (besides it is fun to be in the iSeries
world).

So.... we want a lot!
But we will probably get 7 weeks of 4 hours time to do it.
If we do it right, probably some more time the other year.

To do this we need some help.
All of us know so much more on how and where to get existing stuff that can
be very util for our goals (just send me the links).
All of us could think of small things you could contribute (you just have)
and adds on to the to be created idea that so much is possible on and with
the iSeries (would be nice if it works)(The 720 will have V5R2M0 or V5R3M0
(or better when IBM decides to help)).

Where are we looking for?
- Examples of Curricula that could be usefull.
- Existing short (few hours) illustrative labs/tutorials aimed on different
expects of the OS (Multi-tasking, security, spool-handling, different
standard available interfaces, concepts of subsystems, concept of logical
partitioning,... ,???, !!!).
- Example applications that show the divers way's of things to do and the
many possibilities that can be explored to achieve a goal (Sending mail,
accessing an web-service or Soap-interface, XML handling, Creating Excel
sheets based on iSeries data, websites with specific features, Combining
functions available in native iSeries with Java and PASE to achieve goals
not that common on the iSeries, rock-solid iSeries DataBaseDriven
applications (Ok, those we have ourselves), embedded SQL, and so much more).
- Existing hands on and illustrative labs/tutorials aimed on iSeries
development aspects (Starting with WDSC, RPGLE basics, ILE environment
(Procedures, Binding libraries, Modules, ServicePrograms (what they are and
how they interact.)and that results in working 'simple' applications.
- Articles of use for the other aspects mentioned above. 
- All the things we might forget and should be included.
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Thanks in advance.
Any help is appreciated.

Eduard.
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