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Re: CLP to save just srcf files

That explains why I had not thought of it. Some years ago, I worked extensively 
with v2r2m0 (ancient).  Did not recall that name.  Thanks for the reassurance
that I wan't deliberately doing things the hard way.

John McKee


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The physical it is based off of has been around since V3R1.

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How far back was QSYS2/SYSTABLES first available?

John McKee

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Why do step 1 when you already have a file that automatically has that
built in and is automatically updated - QSYS2/SYSTABLES?

I've seen files like this, maybe even the same name, on SQL Server.  I

say

use a standard dictionary file.

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Al -

DSPFD works...

1) DSPFD FILE(YOURLIB/*ALL) TYPE(*BASATR) OUTPUT(*OUTFILE)
OUTFILE(QTEMP/FILES)

2) The outfile has a field (ATDTAT) which notes the type of file.
    (D=Data, S=Source)

3) Example SQL query of the outfile to show the source physical files:

    select ATFILE, ATLIB, ATFILA, ATDTAT
    from QTEMP/TEMP
    where ATDTAT = 'S'

- sjl


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Hi,

TAA doesn't have what you want, but it could (within the limits I note
below).

There's nothing to say that a source file has to start with a Q

(although

that's very typical), but with that said, it does have a *OBJTYPE of
something like PF-SRC (there is a System/38 variations) object type, but
not a complicated difference.  Although it would not be as efficient as
you
like (to be polite), you could do a DSPOBJD (library-name)/*ALL *FILE to
an
output file, and then OPNQRYF to find the source files.  *YUK.  DSPFD
should have something comparable that would run faster, but I don't

think

(and rightly so) that it's high on IBM list of desired enhancements.

Limitations:  300 objects per library, and one library to a save file.
(There's an exception to get more than 300 libraries to a Save

operation,

but not a SAVF.  SAVF's are only library per save operation.  SAVLIB has

a

complicated exception that let';s you go past the 300 limit, and I

betcha

there's something comparable to SAVOBJ, but than that tells me that your
system's isn't set up well.)   You could get around this with virtual
tape,
but it's really *COMPLICATED. and I suspect you wouldn't be happy. (Like
being on the Titanic.)   There's a TAATOOL to help with virtual tape,

and

that just a little less complicated than relativity, and plausibly

warmer

than the water where the Titanic sunk.

Bad news:  DSPOBJD would take longer than it took for the Titanic to

sink.

after first spotting the first iceberg.  (A bigger rudder would have
helped
a lot, but I'm just a boat guy.)

Good news:  The inherent overlap in the save architecture would make it
seem that the save itself goes really fast, even faster than the Titanic
than was the sinking of the Thresher (you'd have to be over 50 to

remember

that one, and not very wall documented as that was a submarine).

Suggestions:
o     Put all your source files in one library:  (A really good

suggestion

if I say so myself, I'm sure someone will argue with me on this, and

then

tell them something about the horse they rode in on.)  A reasonable

caveat

would be one library per application.  For example mixing AR and AP

would

likely be bad.
o     All (realistic)  limitations (including 300 object save limit and
the
speed of DSPOBJD) go away.  In this environment, there are limits, but
they
are *REALLYHIGH.
o     By all comparison's save is really fast  in this environment.  An
overlap structure was built into it early in the System/38, and as long

as

your objects are not hugely different in size (source typically isn't),
life is happy.
o     When the building fire alarm go's off, you know what to save
immediately, and SAVLIB and better yet SAVCHGOBJ would run light greased
lightning.

Al

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Hi, I want to save all source files to a savf and I've got a pgm that

does

that by saving all files prefixed by Q* to a savf.  There are some PF's
that have files prefixed by Q so what's the best way to save only the
source files to the savf and not the PF's?

Thanks, Frank

p.s.  We don't have TAATOOLS which probably has something to do this.


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