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I'm not sure that you're going to find printing on the PC platform much
cheaper, if you're planning to use a document generation system.

Prices of $5K per workstation and $80 - 250K / server license are not
uncommon. 

All that I would say is know what you're comparing to.  You're always (I
think) going to get more bang for your buck on a PC or Linux platform
than any other, but the i5 gets you all of that i5 ooey-gooey-goodness.
(stability, reliability, etc.)

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From: midrange-l-bounces+joe.hayes=fiserv.com@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces+joe.hayes=fiserv.com@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Michael Ryan
Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 7:19 AM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Re: Looking for alternative to Infoprint Designer

MQ.

On 2/20/07, rob@xxxxxxxxx <rob@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
1 - Wasn't there just a discussion in the last couple of days on the 
cost of Infoprint Designer and having the per seat pricing all wrong?
2 - I agree that Infoprint designer should be part and parcel of WDSC.
Submit a Design Change Request.
There are a lot of things that are two broken apart.  Some parts of 
i5/os sound to me like descriptions of mainframe OS and DB software on

other platforms - a bunch of pick and choose rigamarole.  Why is 
facsimile Support/400 a separate package and not just part of i5/os?  
Isn't that included in the OS on many other platforms?  Maybe if they 
included it with the OS the support would be better.  What other part 
of the OS do you call for support on and ALWAYS are put into a call 
back queue regardless of the time of day?

Rob Berendt
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Group Dekko Services, LLC
Dept 01.073
PO Box 2000
Dock 108
6928N 400E
Kendallville, IN 46755
http://www.dekko.com





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Hello,

Our organization is modifying a number of our forms to include bar 
codes and other graphics, which requires us to generate AFP spool 
files instead of SCS. Unfortunately, Code Designer has not been 
updated in years, and never was able to do AFP documents. I know there

is a program called Infoprint Designer that provides a WSYWIG way of 
defining AFP documents, but the product is prohibitively priced at 
$5000 U.S. per workstation, plus additional fees for the server 
component. At that price, Infoprint Designer is just another nail in 
the coffin of the iSeries around here.

I realize that we can hand craft the DDS, but that's very time 
consuming and error prone. It's just not something that I'm willing to

waste my time doing for the sole purpose of keeping the printing on 
the iSeries. Our choices boil down to either finding a reasonably 
priced iSeries alternative to Designer, or moving our printing onto 
the PC platform. I'm writing the list to see if anyone knows of an 
alternative to Designer. If you have something that you're currently 
using and happy with, I'd love to hear about it.
Vendors are welcome to reply directly to my email address.

Just a thought... but shouldn't Designer have been rolled into WDSC 
anyway?
Business applications tend to require forms printing. Why don't we 
have a modern forms designer included in our development toolset?

Regards,

John Taylor

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