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Thanks John and Vern. I appreciate your time! -----Original Message----- From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jones, John (US) Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 8:42 AM To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion Subject: RE: PTF's John, If you have a decent speed Internet connection use Fix Central at http://www-912.ibm.com/eserver/support/fixes/. It works back to V5R1. Basically, go in and select the groups that interest you. Use the option to download immediately. The Java applet will compare what's available to what's on the iSeries and only pull the difference. Once all of the groups are pulled, use GO PTF option 8 with a PTF source of *SERVICE to install them. If you're really far behind, you may want to download them group by group in order to stay under IBM's threshold that triggers physical media vs. immediate download. For the CUME, I also use Fix Central. However, for CUMEs it doesn't support downloading PTFs individually; just CD-ROM images. So pull the images down and use virtual optical to load & install. InfoCenter ( http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/iseries/ ) has good instructions; go there and search for "PTF virtual optical" or something similar and you should be able to find it easily enough. I believe that the CUME CD images it builds are also tailored to only pull the net-new PTFs. Options exist for both CUMEs and groups to pull complete CD images but there's no need to do that unless you're loading the PTFs to multiple systems. Some may argue that the CUME should be loaded before the groups. I've never found it to make a difference which comes first. However, if you are pretty far behind you probably want to do groups (or CUME) first, IPL to apply, then load the CUME (or group). Some people have reported IPL issues if too many PTFs were set to load at once. Here, due to a quirk in our process controls I don't need to go through our change management process to load group PTFs but I do for CUMEs. So I leave the CUME level alone for the most part (update it annually) and simply load up on groups. There's significant overlap between the two so I don't think I'm missing anything important by ignoring the CUMEs. As we IPL once a month, the week before the IPL I use Fix Central to pull updates to all of the groups that matter to us. Once you're caught up, it's quick to stay up to date as the net-new downloads are typically not that large and not all groups are updated each month. Also, I leave all PTFs as *TEMP unless they are defined as having to be *PERM: APYPTF LICPGM(*ALL) APY(*TEMP) DELAYED(*YES) IPLAPY(*YES *APYPERM). It's especially handy for when I do have to go through change management as I can easily say that the fixes are applied temporarily and can be removed if a problem crops up. With this process I don't worry about pulling HIPERS as they're released; they're caught in the next month's groups. John A. Jones, CISSP Americas Information Security Officer Jones Lang LaSalle, Inc. V: +1-630-455-2787 F: +1-312-601-1782 john.jones@xxxxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John Candidi Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 7:08 AM To: 'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion' Subject: PTF's I want to order all the latest PTF's for my V2.5.0 machine. We don't update them regularly so there may be quite a few. Do I need to know what I have and what I don't have already? What is the difference between the group and Cumes? And how are the groups and cume's identified so that I know what I'm ordering. Excuse me if this question has been asked before but we're a one man shop and this is one of my part-time jobs here (-: John A Candidi Rutgers Insurance Companies IT Director - Iseries Manager 856-779-2274 -- This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) mailing list To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/midrange-l or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l. This email is for the use of the intended recipient(s) only. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender immediately and then delete it. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not keep, use, disclose, copy or distribute this email without the author's prior permission. 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