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i would strongly disagree. we had to invent the technology to be clean...that technology exists now, and its just a matter of enacting & enforcing laws. our own companies would still be dirty if the criminal penalties did not exist. In China a year ago, a major chemical spill took many lives. China imprisoned and (i think) executed some who were responsible. It takes that to get compliance.
According to your arguement - we should look the other way as other countries
enact slavery as a way of "catching up". jim----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Payne" <CPayne@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "Midrange Systems Technical Discussion" <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 1:43 PMSubject: RE: [CPF0000] The globalization of COMMON,or is this the right direction?
You have to remember though that when we had our industrial revolution none of that stuff was in place, we had an ugly time of it with deaths, pollution and all sorts of nasty side effects, but the gains to society were so large we were willing to accept the cost. Once we had an industrial society we had so much more wealth that we could turn our attention to things like the environment and workplace safety. By insisting that other nations must have these things in place before they have the wealth of being an industrial society, we are putting them in a catch 22. -----Original Message----- From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jerry Adams Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 1:30 PM To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion Subject: Re: [CPF0000] The globalization of COMMON,or is this the right direction? Trevor Perry wrote:Paul, It is so simple, it is obvious.I agree, Trevor. The problem, though, (as Joe pointed out verbosely) is parity and equity. If the rules (such as EPA, OSHA, etc.) were at least close globally, this discussion would not be taking place. The imbalance is like mixing a glass of ice-water and a glass of hot water: the temperature settles to a "happy" medium. As Joe tried to illustrate, this is simple leveling. Companies do not outsource for any altruistic reasons; it is purely an economic decision (as Paul pointed out). If there were equity across borders, why would one bother relocating a plant or a function? It is not a matter (always) of upgrading skill sets; when the skill sets are very identical, this admonition fails of its own weight. If it were a matter of one, for example, refusing to give up good ol' RPG II and learn RPG IV, you might be on to something, but it's not. I'm not a protectionist at heart nor, do I think, xenophobic. But I do have a strong sense of fair play. My grandfather's fault, I suppose. However, parity has never existed and never will. In fact, since you're suggesting reading, may I reciprocate? Alvin Toffler in "The Third Wave" pretty much predicted all of this: globalization, the simultaneous breakdown of some national units (USSR -> Russia, etc., as well as the decentralization of the USA), as well as the centralization of corporations. It was pretty scary (to me) when I read it in the 80's. * Jerry C. Adams *IBM System i Programmer/Analyst B&W Wholesale Distributors, Inc.* * voice 615.995.7024 fax 615.995.1201 email jerry@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:jerry@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> -- This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) mailing list To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/midrange-l or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l. --This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) mailing listTo post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/midrange-l or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l.
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