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Are those also concerns when using a HMC as a console (during upgrades,
etc.)?

                                                                       
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I heard about those and I'm not even sure that's what I want.

According to the IBM support person I had on the phone, the only _certain_
way to make sure the console is seen during an upgrade is to use twinax.
When I mentioned the thin client type, he said even that could still be a
potential problem, because it relied on communications of some type.

According to him, twinax is "hardwired at port 0 address 0" and is the only
surefire console method.  Every other way requires communications.

I am not making this up, those were his exact words.  I don't know what I
think yet, except ops console failed and twinax worked.

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260-422-7531

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-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jim Franz
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 10:31 AM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Re: New twinax

IBM was showing a thin client type device at Common in Minn.
They described it as a "pre-release" or "may be coming to
market..." (i don't remember exact wording, but beleive a
plain basic console is coming, and can see sites such as
yours a good solution.
jim franz
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Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 10:22 AM
Subject: New twinax


Due to V5R4 installation failure (due to ops console), I
have a 3180
that is currently functioning as the system console.

IBM no longer makes twinax terminals.

I'm looking for some kind of a twinax device (like a brick or
something) to which I can attach a keyboard and VGA monitor.  This
would give me a twinax device that can function as the
console.  The
3180 is ancient.

Is such a thing available?

Thanks.

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Jeff Crosby
Dilgard Frozen Foods, Inc.
P.O. Box 13369
Ft. Wayne, IN 46868-3369
260-422-7531

The opinions expressed are my own and not necessarily the
opinion of
my company.  Unless I say so.


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