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I'm familiar with the recommendation of hard coding... i've just never actually run into a quantifiable problem i've worked on before! I was always just the 400 guy before and didn't have 'hands on' access to the rest of the network. Any suggestions are much appreciated... "Jones, John \(US\)" <John.Jones@xxxxx To l.com> "Midrange Systems Technical Sent by: Discussion" midrange-l-bounce <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> s@xxxxxxxxxxxx cc Subject 11/28/2005 01:10 RE: FTP and file transfer speeds PM Please respond to Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@midra nge.com> I basically agree with Larry. 100Mbps equates to a real-world of around 10MBps. 8 bits/byte, of course, + packet & parity overhead means the theoretical max of 12.5MBps is unachievable. 9-10MBps is about the best you can expect. And here, a Cisco shop for years, we've always had to hard-code our server adapters (both Intel & iSeries) to match the switch vs. leaving everything on Auto. This was at the request of the network gurus. -- John A. Jones, CISSP Americas Information Security Officer Jones Lang LaSalle, Inc. V: +1-630-455-2787 F: +1-312-601-1782 john.jones@xxxxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Larry Bolhuis Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 11:53 AM To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion Subject: Re: FTP and file transfer speeds Chad, Clearly you are correct in moving to a switch rather than hub environment. Setting the iSeries line description to 100Mbps and Full Duplex are also important. I don't think you have an issue on the connection from the iSeries to the inside network because 9900+ Mpbs is fairly close to full network utilization (12000KBps translates roughly to 100Mbps) You won't get anywhere close to that if the connection is poor. I would still verify that the switch port is also set to 100Mpbs and Full duplex rather than AUTO and AUTO, especially with Cisco or Dell switches. Also verify the current speed and duplex match to the iSeries. Now the PIX itself will transfer at wire speed but it too can have problems with speed and duplex. So on the Pix do to SHOW INTERFACE and observe the reported speed and duplex for the various interfaces. Then do the same on the switches and observe the ports the PIX is connected to. I have found that even with Cisco switches the dadgum PIX gets it wrong. Usually the speed is correct at 100Mpbs but the duplex on the PIX shows one thing and the switch shows the other. This of course will drag bandwidth down dramatically. Of course it makes sense to verify the speed and duplex of the target server and it's switch port as well. I'll bet you find a mismatch in there someplace and correcting it will bring speeds to the DMZ to within 10% of the inside network. - Larry ChadB@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: > Hello all... i'm working on an file transfer speed issue we first > noticed while installing some apps to various iSeries boxes on our > network that are plugged in to various locations/firewall zones. > Through some more detailed testing, here's what i'm finding. > Originally, the 'slow' interfaces were plugged in to a 100/half hub > that provides connectivity to our DMZ zone on our Pix 515. I've since > replaced that hub with a 100/full switch and reconfigured the *LINDs > to the new speed/duplex. Some retransmits on the various interfaces I > was tracking are looking better since the change (2% now on the DMZ > boxes rather than 4% with the hub), but the file transfers are still showing the 'SLOW' behavior. > > I'm now wondering if this is more of a firewall issue than a > hardware/config issue... is file transfer throughput between different > firewall zones impacted this much by a PIX? > > Any advice will be appreciated... details are below: > > > With 100/Full switch in place for DMZ connections: > |-----------------+-----------------+-----------------+----------------- | > |IP Address |Firewall |Time to FTP |Throughput | > | |Zone/Hub/Switch |(seconds) |(Kbytes/second) | > |-----------------+-----------------+-----------------+----------------- | > |a.a.a.a |Inside |.95 |7000.15 | > |-----------------+-----------------+-----------------+----------------- | > |b.b.b.b |DMZ |34.34 |194.26 | > |-----------------+-----------------+-----------------+----------------- | > |c.c.c.c |DMZ |19.23 |346.84 | > |-----------------+-----------------+-----------------+----------------- | > |d.d.d.d |Inside |3.55 |1880.78 | > |-----------------+-----------------+-----------------+----------------- | > |e.e.e.e |DMZ |18.63 |358.18 | > |-----------------+-----------------+-----------------+----------------- | > | | | | | > |-----------------+-----------------+-----------------+----------------- | > > > > > With 100/Half hub in place for DMZ connections: > |-----------------+-----------------+-----------------+----------------- | > | IP Address | Firewall | Time to FTP | Throughput | > | | Zone/Hub/Switch | (seconds) | (Kbytes/second) | > |-----------------+-----------------+-----------------+----------------- | > | a.a.a.a | Inside | .67 | 9927.29 | > |-----------------+-----------------+-----------------+----------------- | > | b.b.b.b | DMZ | 13.56 | 491.86 | > |-----------------+-----------------+-----------------+----------------- | > | c.c.c.c | DMZ | 32.49 | 205.35 | > |-----------------+-----------------+-----------------+----------------- | > | d.d.d.d | Inside | 2.28 | 2924.66 | > |-----------------+-----------------+-----------------+----------------- | > | e.e.e.e | DMZ | 23.25 | 286.92 | > |-----------------+-----------------+-----------------+----------------- | > -- Larry Bolhuis IBM eServer Certified Systems Expert: Vice President iSeries Technical Solutions V5R3 Arbor Solutions, Inc. iSeries LPAR Technical Solutions V5R3 1345 Monroe NW Suite 259 iSeries Linux Technical Solutions V5R3 Grand Rapids, MI 49505 iSeries Windows Integration Technical Solutions V5R3 IBM eServer Certified Systems Specialist (616) 451-2500 iSeries System Administrator for OS/400 V5R3 (616) 451-2571 - Fax AS/400 RPG IV Developer (616) 260-4746 - Cell iSeries System Command Operations V5R2 If you can read this, thank a teacher....and since it's in English, thank a soldier. -- This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) mailing list To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/midrange-l or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l. 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