Re: Help me Justify iSeries

i never said "anti-anything"...i know u luv the "i".
what gets me going is quick cost analysis of basic hardware as if that's all
it takes.
Who is to say the image or doc server is not mission critical... I have a
customer
where those docs are as critical as all of accounting. In the days of HIPAA
(or is it
HIPPO),SarbOx, and Corporate Hacking for profit, there better be no weak
links
in your network - thats a launching point for an attack)
My only point is proper cost analysis is not shot from the hip (and I'm
pointing
to Ron's manager, not you...).
I agree the points about file serving, image serving from the iSeries.
Because it can do so many things doesn't mean it should.
But, I have yet to meet a manager who, if asked the right questions, would
far prefer a lights out computer room where everything works well.
People scurrying around to get or keep apps up & running is not only bad
implementation, but also bad management.
jim
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joe Pluta" <joepluta@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'" <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 11:54 AM
Subject: RE: Help me Justify iSeries


> Hey!
>
> Don't go taking my name in vain here, Jim.  I really hate when people
> try to slot me when I offer alternatives.  If I say Java isn't good for
> everything, I get labeled anti-Java.  If I say RPG isn't good for some
> things, I get labeled anti-RPG.  I mention that Wintel might be cheaper
> for some things, and (you could've predicted it) someone starts labeling
> me as anti-iSeries.
>
> I think I was pretty clear about how this was a business decision.
> Before you start throwing out buzzwords like "security" and "critical
> update and maint time", exactly how much time do you think you need to
> spend on securing and maintaining a file server, even if the files are
> HTTP accessible?  It's nowhere near what's needed for a web application
> server.
>
> "joe's cheap pc" is still WAY less expensive than the corresponding
> iSeries disk.  If you need high availability, then great, you need
> another PC.  And at that point (and only at that point) the
> administration begins to become an issue, primarily because I don't know
> of a good way to fail over from one PC to another, although I'm sure
> there's a network appliance that would do it.
>
> In any case, "joe's cheap pc" is still cheap, and is still a viable
> alternative to expensive iSeries disk when storing static binary data.
> It may not be the right alternative for a given business, but it has to
> be looked at, especially when you're trying to keep the overall price of
> your iSeries solution to a minimum.
>
> Joe
>
>
> > From: Jim Franz
> >
> > (just like joe's cheap pc that suddenly
> > got more expensive when you add reliability requirements...and no
> mention
> > of security, HA, the critical update & maint time, & on & on).
>
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