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RE: Death of SNA?

My understanding is that you will need Enterprise Extender to run
SNA/APPC apps.

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> Subject: Re: Death of SNA?
> From: rob@xxxxxxxxx
> Date: Mon, May 16, 2005 2:13 pm
> To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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> Thanks for the link to the article.  One of the most pertinent points:
> "Sources say that IBM has not decided yet if Enterprise Extender will be 
> part of i5/OS or a separate licensed program product with its own fee, but 
> what is known is that it will be tightly integrated into i5/OS such that 
> most SNA applications that are running today will run without 
> modifications, and those that do need modifications will involve changes 
> to network settings, not application code. "
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> I think your reply can be summarized into, "APPC and SNA on the iSeries 
> will continue to be supported only if you get Enterprise Extender", true? 
> Or can you continue to run any of these without Enterprise Extender?
> 
> Rob Berendt
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> After reading the various posts on this discussion thread, I feel that 
> some clarification on the recent V5R3 planning statement regarding SNA 
> communications may be in order. 
> 
> There are no plans to discontinue the support of the numerous APPC based 
> applications shipped on i5/OS including DDM, Display Station Passthru, and 
> 
> the various SNADs applications ( SNDNETF, SNDNETMSG, SNDNETSPLF, SNDDST). 
> These IBM supplied APPC applications as well as any user supplied APPC 
> applications will continue to be supported.  The message being conveyed by 
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> the planning statement is that most SNA applications will continue to be 
> supported, but the underlying transport mechanism for supporting these 
> applications will be IP based.
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> With Enterprise Extender support, which will be supported in a future 
> release, the APPC applications will be able to run over IP.  Enterprise 
> Extender is a technology that has been widely accepted in the industry for 
> 
> addressing the problem of allowing SNA traffic to flow over an IP based 
> networking infrastructure.  Enterprise Extender will have significant 
> advantages over the AnyNet support provided on i5/OS.  It will be easier 
> to configure than AnyNet, provide better performance than AnyNet, and it 
> will also support dependent LU traffic (3270 emulation, RJE, DHCF, NRF, 
> SNUF) up to the mainframes when used in conjunction with Dependent LU 
> Requester (DLUR) support. 
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> The following article published last week by Timothy Prickett Morgan 
> provides some additional information on this topic. 
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> http://www.itjungle.com/tfh/tfh050905-story01.html
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> Good question.
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> There are multiple parts of SNDDST.  There's the use of it to perform the 
> like function of SNDNETMSG.  Then there's the use of it to send email out.
> 
> Here, we already use a "command exit program" to convert SNDDST into Dave 
> Leland's SNDEMAIL.  If I truly knew if that was dropping, I'd modify the 
> program to let the programming manager know of yet another program that 
> has SNDDST buried in it that needs to be modified.
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> Where does that leave SNDDST?
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> Thanks,
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> Mark
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> Mark D. Walter
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> Claims that the release after V5R3 will be the last to support SNA.
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> Confirmation from IBM:
> http://www-1.ibm.com/servers/eserver/iseries/support/planning/futuresftwr.html
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> Items affected:
> SNDNETF
> SNDNETMSG
> SNDNETSPLF
> etc.
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