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Thanks everyone for the ongoing concern in quality Information Centers. You may or may not know that the iSeries Information Center team developed the first several evolutions of the Information Center framework. No one is more aware than we are of the how the recent JRE version defects and inconsistencies have cut that framework off at the knees. Further, you are correct in noticing that there are now two basic implementations of InfoCenter frameworks within IBM. Indeed, this second implementation has benefited from a number of lessons learned from the iSeries InfoCenter framework - lessons on what to do as well as what not to do. The newer InfoCenter framework is a relatively recent development with respect to the iSeries releases. In fact there was very minimal usage of the newer framework when the V5R3 iSeries Information Center site GA'd - maybe only one product was using it. Since then, this second framework has matured and has been hardened in a number of InfoCenter deployments and we now feel more confident in its capability to serve our iSeries customer set. No other set of IBM customers is more experienced with Information Centers and no other set understands the importance of having them function correctly than iSeries customers. I trust that you understand that the notion that flipping a switch to migrate from one architecture to another mid-release is as unrealistic here as it is in any other real world development environment. I am not permitted to publicly declare any definite commitments to deliver specific function. However, you can rest assured that we have been isolating and mitigating a number of the problems with the iSeries Information Center website over the past few months and are working on others even as I type this. These modifications are occurring within the existing framework for the short term. A longer term solution will probably see the iSeries Information Center migrate to this newer InfoCenter framework discussed above. To be frank, I hope that you see (or trust) that we're doing the best we can with the time and resources available to us. I also expect that you will see an upturn in the near future. Regards, Darel |+---------------------+-------------------------------------------------> || | | |+---------------------+-------------------------------------------------> >------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | | >------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| |+---------------------+-------------------------------------------------> ||Darel Benysh, PhD |IBM > STG > User technologies > iSeries > | || |Information Center | |+---------------------+-------------------------------------------------> >------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | | >------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| |+---------------------+-------------------------------------------------> ||benysh@xxxxxxxxxx |507 253 2607 T/L 553 2607 | |+---------------------+-------------------------------------------------> >------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | | >------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| |+---------------------+-------------------------------------------------> ||iSeries Information |http://www.ibm.com/eserver/iseries/infocenter | ||Center | | |+---------------------+-------------------------------------------------> >------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | | >------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| |+---------------------+-------------------------------------------------> ||eServer Information |http://www.ibm.com/servers/library/infocenter/inf| ||Center |ocenter.html | |+---------------------+-------------------------------------------------> >------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | | >------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| |+---------------------+-------------------------------------------------> || | | |+---------------------+-------------------------------------------------> >------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | | >------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| "Haase, Justin C." <justin.haase@Kin To gland.com> "Midrange Systems Technical Sent by: Discussion" midrange-l-bounce <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> s@xxxxxxxxxxxx cc Subject 05/11/2005 04:49 RE: Another opinion on InfoCenter PM Please respond to Midrange Systems Technical Discussion AIX has a great Infocenter as well. http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/pseries/index.jsp?topic=/com.ib m.aix.doc/infocenter/base/aix53.htm Justin -----Original Message----- From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tom Liotta Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 4:44 PM To: midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: Another opinion on InfoCenter midrange-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: > 5. Re: Another opinion on InfoCenter (ron_adams@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx) > >DITTO! > >Can somebody start a petition to get IBM to fix or remove Infocenter >altogether? It's an abomination! >I avoid using it unless I can't find what I'm looking for somewhere else. >It has a nice interface, however, it doesn't work. >I hate to admit this, but Microsoft's Developer Network web-site is >much better, and it doesn't lock up my browser! As if it couldn't get any worse, try this version of InfoCenter: http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/wasinfo/index.jsp But be careful of some of the links, in particular links that take you to WAS for iSeries documentation because those links take you to the Dark Side. How in the world can IBM present an InfoCenter such as the one linked to above, yet also give us the iSeries InfoCenter? Why are there two separate technologies (or at least techniques) for this? Pick the one that generally works and give it to us. Kill the other one. 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