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probably pass the buck, blame the contracted firm, get a bonus for cleaning it up.... you won't hear about most failures-there is no incentive to come clean. there also seems to be no incentive to careful planning, and asking some very detailed questions up front before the go-ahead. jim ----- Original Message ----- From: <michael@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: "Midrange Systems Technical Discussion" <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 10:50 AM Subject: RE: Left AS/400 and Returned > Did they also fire the CIO? > > > -------- Original Message -------- > > Subject: Re: Left AS/400 and Returned > > From: R Bruce Hoffman <bruce.hoffman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Date: Fri, April 29, 2005 10:30 am > > To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > I worked for a company that, in 1994, decided that the three AS400's > > (one 300GB+ production machine, one 50GB development machine, one > > sandbox machine, a 20S IIRC, and 8+ million lines of custom code in RPG, > > COBOL and PL/I) decided that it was time to replace everything in a > > "Business Re-Engineering" project. > > > > To what? AIX and Informix. > > > > I recommended upgrading the boxes to RISC, installing and using DataProp > > and deploying the data warehouse from another 400. They said no. There > > were committed to coming off the 400 platform. > > > > That was it for me. I went back to consulting. > > > > For three years they tried just to get a basic data warehouse running > > that was accurate and could be updated from the 80,000+ active contracts > > maintained on the 400s in less than 3 days. > > > > Never happened. > > > > 3 years, 15+ MILLION dollars later... what did they do? They fired the > > contract firm that had convinced them to do this in the first place. > > They upgraded all their 400s. They installed Data Propagator. They built > > the warehouse on a 400. > > > > Still up today. > > > > By the way, out of 24 or so, highly skilled, multi-language, VERY loyal, > > in-house trained programmers, all but one or two have left. So the > > company lost a LOT more than $15 million. > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 2005-04-28 at 19:58, Frances Denoncourt wrote: > > > Have any of you moved all of your apps AND data off the AS/400 on to an > > > SQL server and then moved back to the AS/400 (at least for data) or > > > really wished you could? > > > > > > Looks like we are not only moving the apps to the dotnet world but also > > > our data. > > > > > > Should I be scared silly?? > > > Any horror stories? > > > > > > Thanks - I think. > > > > > > Fran Denoncourt > > > Sr. Programmer/Analyst > > > Pinal County Treasurer's Office > > > Florence, AZ 85232 > > > (520) 866-6404 > > > > > > Receipt of this message does not grant you permission to send me > > > Unsolicited Commercial Email > > -- > > "Bigamy is having one wife too many. Monogamy is the same." > > -- Oscar Wilde > > > > -- > > This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) mailing list > > To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, > > visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/midrange-l > > or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives > > at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l. > > -- > This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) mailing list > To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, > visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/midrange-l > or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx > Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives > at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l. >
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