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Let's stop the madness.

None of us can tell what the outcome will be. I do feel that there are some 
management people out there who wants to know.  I also feel that there are 
employees out there who think of other.  Yes, it is a shame that he waited 8 
years to speak up or think about speaking up.  Who knows he might have played a 
part in his own down size.  By turning a blind eye to it for 8 years has lead 
him to this asking us for advise.  When he should have been asking that 
question the first year at the job. Advising him to not burn bridges, what if 
the company close down.  What bridges will be burn if the company is gone.

-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Larry Bolhuis
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 2:28 PM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Re: I am leaving my company - should I inform top mgmt of major
IT issues?


I think Ron's approach is right on here.  You certainly risk trouble by 
telling them because they will likely take one of two views of the 
situation a) you are bitter or b) you are incompetent because you didn't 
bring it up even though you've know about it for a long time.  On the 
other hand if you don't tell them it's on your conscience.

Good Luck,

  - Larry

ron_adams@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:

>As a matter of professional courtesy, I think you should tactfully, 
>without stepping on anybody's toes (if possible) document the issues that 
>you see. 
>It should be done in a manner and tone of trying to inform 
>upper-management of some concerns you see and not necessarily exposing 
>anybody in particular of wrong-doing or ineptitude. 
>Be very careful to avoid griping and complaining as this kind of a tone 
>simply makes you look like a whiner and your comments will be disregarded.
>
>
>Thanks,
>
>Ron Adams
>Information Technology Group
>Crane Valves
>9200 New Trails Dr. Suite 200
>The Woodlands, TX 77385
>
>
>
>
>
>
>"j s" <jrstone@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>Sent by: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>02/10/2005 10:52 AM
>Please respond to Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
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>        To:     "Midrange Systems Technical Discussion" 
> <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>        cc: 
>        Subject:        I am leaving my company - should I inform top mgmt of 
> major IT  issues?
>
>
>I have been working in my company's IT department for 8 years.  The 
>company is downsizing, and I got caught up in the latest round.
>
>My company's IT department is severely damaging the company and risking 
>the company's thousands of jobs by being so imcompetent.
>
>Should I inform my company's top mgmt of specific technical issues in 
>their IT department that are destroying the company?
>
>Should I go out with a bang?  Or gracefully (without informing mgmt)?
>
>
>Reasons to inform mgmt:
>  a..     Seems like the right thing to do
>  b..     They might make needed changes and turn the company around
>  c..     They need to make serious and fundamental IT changes to survive
>  d..     Maybe they will keep me on staff
>
>
>Reasons NOT to inform mgmt:
>  a..     It is sticking my nose where it doesn't belong
>  b..     No one else does this type of thing
>  c..     It would probably sound like just another disgruntled employee 
>spewing giberish
>  d..     It could cause a shakeup in the IT department and I would lose 
>friends and the respect of former co-workers
>
>Has anyone tried informing top mgmt of problems upon exit of the company? 
>Was there anything positive that came out of doing this?
>
>Thanks!
>  
>

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