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To see how valid these claims about how much more expensive iSeries pros are than Unix pros, I ran the following. The numbers are approximate for a large metropolitan area but should be fairly close based on what I've observed. Please feel free to adjust and comment. Fixed costs/pro: - Facility costs (rent, office services, copier, fax, printer, coffee, etc.): $12K/year - Phone service + blackberry/cel phone + remote access: $4K/year - Manager expense (assumes a manager covers a group of 8 people & earns $110K/year) One Time Charges: - Recruitment costs: $15K (probably a lowball number) - Cubicle furnishings: $2K - PC (2 over 5 years): $4K Variable costs: - Salary - Benefits (assume 30% of salary since that's what is commonly quoted. Includes training.) Example 1: Assumes 2 iSeries pros do the same work as 4 Unix pros, cost over 5 years - iSeries Pro makes $90K/year. A) Benefits: $27K/year B) Fixed expenses: $16K/year C) Manager expense: ($110K/8)=$13.75K Annual costs: $146.75K/year/pro OTC: $21K/pro x 2 = $42K Two iSeries Pros for 5 years (2 pros x Annual costs x 5 years + OTC): $1,509.5K - Unix Pro make $30K/year. A) Benefits: $9K/year B) Fixed expenses: $16K/year C) Manager expense: ($110K/8)=$13.75K Annual costs: $68.75K/year/pro OTC: $21K/pro x 4 = $84K Four Unix Pros for 5 years (4 pros x Annual costs x 5 years + OTC): $1,459K - To pay 4 Unix pros what 2 iSeries pros cost, the Unix pros would only pull around $30K/year. I can't think of any market anywhere in the country where an experienced Unix admin will only pull $30K, especially if it's comparable to where an iSeries admin would pull $90K. Example 2, from Bruce: 2 iSeries pros = 6 Unix pros - iSeries Pro makes $90K/year. A) Benefits: $27K/year B) Fixed expenses: $16K/year C) Manager expense: ($110K/8)=$13.75K Annual costs: $146.75K/year/pro OTC: $21K/pro x 2 = $42K Two iSeries Pros for 5 years (2 pros x Annual costs x 5 years + OTC): $1,509.5K - Unix Pro make $17K/year. A) Benefits: $5.1K/year B) Fixed expenses: $16K/year C) Manager expense: ($110K/8)=$13.75K Annual costs: $49.6K/year/pro OTC: $21K/pro x 6 = $126K Four Unix Pros for 5 years (6 pros x Annual costs x 5 years + OTC): $1,614K - The average training class, once you include travel, can easily run $3-4K, so these Unix admins probably aren't getting any training. - To solve Bruce's problem about finding local talent, you could pay each iSeries pro a OTC relocation bonus of $25K and still be cheaper than the 6 Unix pros. - Where in the US are you hiring experienced Unix admins for $17K/year? John A. Jones, CISSP Americas Information Security Officer Jones Lang LaSalle, Inc. V: +1-630-455-2787 F: +1-312-601-1782 john.jones@xxxxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: Bruce Barrett [mailto:bruce.barrett@xxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Monday, February 07, 2005 11:25 AM To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion Subject: RE: Scalability by the same token, you can hire 3, 4, 5... maybe more (depending on what part of the country you're from) non-iSeries support personnel for the same cost of TWO iSeries guys. I have to agree with this statement. Head count is not the issue, until a company needs to cut costs. Here in the SF bay area, you can get a half dozen UNIX people for the cost of what they have to pay for a couple of iSeries people. If the iSeries people leave it is a bit of a challenge to find a replacement. Half of the UNIX people leave they can be replaced the next day and if the company is lucky, for less money. Bruce Barrett This email is for the use of the intended recipient(s) only. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender immediately and then delete it. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not keep, use, disclose, copy or distribute this email without the author's prior permission. We have taken precautions to minimize the risk of transmitting software viruses, but we advise you to carry out your own virus checks on any attachment to this message. We cannot accept liability for any loss or damage caused by software viruses. The information contained in this communication may be confidential and may be subject to the attorney-client privilege. If you are the intended recipient and you do not wish to receive similar electronic messages from us in future then please respond to the sender to this effect.
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