But then you have the schools loaded up with obsolete hardware and software. All of the sexy new features cannot be taught, since the old system cannot support the compute intensive workloads. "Sorry kid, the AS400 is too slow to run that JAVA app... Try running it on this linux server over here." Kinda just cements the idea that this platform cannot compete with the alternatives, even though the modern hardware could easily accomodate these workloads. Personally, I think IBM should host the servers for the schools. The school gets charged a reasonable rate to access the hosts, and they are not stuck paying support for obsolete systems. Perhaps this could be a testbed for IBM's "utility computing" grid.... Eric DeLong Sally Beauty Company MIS-Project Manager (BSG) 940-297-2863 or ext. 1863 -----Original Message----- From: Jack Derham [mailto:derhamj@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2005 12:02 PM To: 'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion' Subject: RE: Sound familiar? A wild thought has just occurred to me. It's a known fact that AS400's last for ever so why don't IBM and the Business Partners set up a program were old equipment is refurbished and give to schools gratis. They could also give them older versions of the software. No immediate profit but it would be a very cheap way get into the younger generations mind and would probably also be set up to provide a very nice tax write off. Jack Derham Direct Systems, Inc. -----Original Message----- From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of GKern@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2005 10:45 AM To: midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: Sound familiar? Good point Rob. I just found it ironic that the comments about the MS marketing machine are the same ones made when pleading the iSeries case to IBM usually at the Common soundoff sessions. The fact that MS gets their fingers in everything. And that Apple used schools to introduce their technology. (I know IBM has been resurrecting their presence in schools as of late.) I remember the slogan that was going around Common many moons ago - "It's The Marketing". In that regard I thought the writer was making the same point about IBM and their marketing - be it for Notes or iSeries. Regards, Jerry Gerald Kern IBM Certified AS/400 RPG IV Developer & RPG IV Programmer MIS Project Leader, Lotus Notes/Domino Administrator The Toledo Clinic, Inc. 4235 Secor Road Toledo, OH 43623-4299 Phone 419-479-5535 gkern@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ***** This email message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. -- This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) mailing list To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/midrange-l or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l.
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