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True.

Also IBM requires the colleges to have a "Partner in Education". Basically 
this is some local business, etc that sponsors the college.  Some 
instructors may come out of this arrangement, but I suspect it is really 
to show the college that some local businesses have a need for these 
positions.

Rob Berendt
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Group Dekko Services, LLC
Dept 01.073
PO Box 2000
Dock 108
6928N 400E
Kendallville, IN 46755
http://www.dekko.com





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Part of that is also the declining enrollment for those classes, which
is probably as a result of decreasing demand for iSeries programmers. I
developed the AS/400 curriculum for a community college in mid-Michigan.
We were going gangbusters in the mid 80 to early 90s...classes were
full...we were teaching RPG and Operations and tons of good
classes...even had a distance learning program over the Internet. But
then the market started drying up...AS/400 programmers weren't much in
demand, so classes were cancelled and fewer offered in subsequent
terms. Eventually the program just stopped...while the C++ and Java and
Microsoft Office product classes were full. The college has a mission to
meet the needs of the community and they were doing that.

Quick search on Monster...iSeries OR AS/400 - 14 hits; Java - 182 hits;
java and (iseries or AS/400) - 0 hits.

> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: IBM a personal comment
> From: "Shields, Ken" <kenshields@xxxxxxx>
> Date: Mon, January 31, 2005 10:22 am
> To: "Midrange Mailing LIst (E-mail)" <Midrange-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> 
> Group Hi
> 
>                I recently discovered that IBM , out of the goodness of 
their hearts made a large contribution of software to a local 
>                College.(There was probably some tax implications here)
>                The College has gone on to become a full fledged 
University, and Institute of Technology, which for the purpose 
>                of this writing will be unnamed
> 
>                To this date, no courses in that E-Commerce software have 
been initiated by the Institute. I imagine the reason 
>                given , is lack of attendance (on the College's part), 
but also because there probably exists no 
>                computer equipment, and CA programs , on which to test 
and educate the student population.
>                I imagine the plan was to offer the College/University 
the free software, and then have THEM purchase the 
>                /400...ISeries base to initiate the courses
>                That last step probably was outside the realm of the 
College's budget (just surmising here)
>                To be fair, there are other Colleges in the area which 
offer /400 classes , but are not current and again, they too
>                cancel classes because of lack of demand. (I wonder 
why?..)
> 
>                My personal feeling is that IBM will continue to lose the 
 market share, NOT because they make an inferior product,
>                but because they are not getting proactively involved in 
the education of our students.
>                I'll wager most graduates are quite converse with 
Microsoft software and .NET, but haven't a clue about IBM 's 
>                offerings.
>                And just whose software and world will these budding 
graduates look to in the future?
> 
>                The old adage " You have to spend money to make money", 
is no more self evident than in this very critical area
>                of people's lives.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Ken Shields
> PPG Canada Inc
> Ph: 905 725 1144 (326)
> Fx: 905 433 8712
> 
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