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Thanks to all. I'm aware of most of the 3rd party products, but since I'm not in that decision, it doesn't really matter. I was hoping to understand for myself really, what a browser based app can't do right, whereas a thick client, like Visual Basic, or Visual Lansa, can do it right. I know that Joe Pluta's product would convert everything on the fly, and they would be done, but that doesn't make them .NET. I wonder why they chose the browser instead of C++ (whatever). I heard something they said about the browser making deployment of apps much easier, but done right, deployment is easy enough. I like the security point. Their network was down like 2 weeks because of Code Red. Of course, all the TELNET to As/400 apps worked fine. And as I said before, as far as keeping a customer, I don't worry much about losing them. This project is so bad, I'll be around forever maintaining and sweetening their existitng software. Reeve had said previously that you get what you spec when you offshore. I think they let the liason spec it out, and he has no experience whatsoever in their line of business. Another smart decision. When I talk with my partners about this, none of it makes sense. These people own this family business, it's very profitable, growing by leaps and bounds, they are obviously not stupid business people. But when it comes to their IT, they lose their minds and make the wrong decisions. The managers that have used the product have all said it sucks, the real "end" users are just low level people that come and go. BTW John, I like the line in Pirates of the Carribbean, when they asked what's the reason Johnny Depp's pirate character behaves so strangely, "Reason ain't got nothin to do with it" Art Thanks, Art
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