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I stand corrected. However, the flyer didn't claim it as a door prize, it claimed that if I registered I'd be eligible to win. -----Original Message----- From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John Brandt Sr. Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 8:19 AM To: 'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion' Subject: Spam:RE: Is the Barsa Group running a lottery? This is not a "Lottery" and doesn't meet the definition of a lottery or sweepstake. It is a "Door prize" and not intended for the general public. It is intended for participants in a particular event. <snip> United States Code Title 18 Section 1307. Exceptions relating to certain advertisements and other information and to State-conducted lotteries (a) The provisions of sections 1301, 1302, 1303, and 1304 shall not apply to - (1) an advertisement, list of prizes, or other information concerning a lottery conducted by a State acting under the authority of State law which is - (A) contained in a publication published in that State or in a State which conducts such a lottery; or (B) broadcast by a radio or television station licensed to a location in that State or a State which conducts such a lottery; or (2) an advertisement, list of prizes, or other information concerning a lottery, gift enterprise, or similar scheme, other than one described in paragraph (1), that is authorized or not otherwise prohibited by the State in which it is conducted and which is - (A) conducted by a not-for-profit organization or a governmental organization; or ************************ (B) conducted as a promotional activity by a commercial organization and is clearly occasional and ancillary to the primary business of that organization. ************************ </snip> What you noted applies to mass advertising and marketing to the general public, not a company attempting to promote attendance at a seminar. Just my humble opinion, I could be wrong. John Brandt iStudio400.com (903) 523-0708 Home of iS/ODBC - MSSQL access from iSeries and RPG. -----Original Message----- From: Chuck Ackerman [mailto:CAckerman@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 9:38 AM To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion Subject: Is the Barsa Group running a lottery? I just received an invitation to the "iSeries & AS/400 Connection Conference" in Naples, Florida put on by The Barsa Group. On it there is a drawing for four IBM ThinkPad's. However, to be eligible to win the ThinkPad one must register and pay for the conference. Under federal law this constitutes a lottery and is illegal. In order for it to qualify for a giveaway then there must be no purchase required. I have worked for many companies that have had giveaways and drawings and know of this first hand. I wonder if the guys at Barsa Consulting Group really thought this through! More info here: http://articles.corporate.findlaw.com/articles/file/00525/009727 -- This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) mailing list To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/midrange-l or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l. --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.822 / Virus Database: 560 - Release Date: 12/22/04 -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.5 - Release Date: 12/26/04 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.5 - Release Date: 12/26/04 -- This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) mailing list To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/midrange-l or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l.
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