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Rob, we're in final imact analysis this week to take my kid's school to linux. The only things left on Windows would be a few teacher desktops that have to run a proprietary client program to use th emain house server stuff... As you eluded to, the licensing and pricing issues just got to be too big of a pain....but they were a few parsecs second distance from security and stability issues. Don in DC On Fri, 28 May 2004 rob@xxxxxxxxx wrote: > You ought to try dealing with Microsoft and keeping track of their > licensing. We do things on the up-and-up here but the boss is seriously > moving the user desktops to Linux after that last Microsoft audit. > > Rob Berendt > -- > Group Dekko Services, LLC > Dept 01.073 > PO Box 2000 > Dock 108 > 6928N 400E > Kendallville, IN 46755 > http://www.dekko.com > > > > > > glea@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent by: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx > 05/27/2004 06:26 PM > Please respond to > Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > To > midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx > cc > > Subject > Problems with moving IBM software form one machine to another > > > > > > > This might be something to add to the ongoing saga of why the iSeries is > losing market share. Our company has been running on S/38 and AS/400 > since the S/38 was a puppy. Recently the building that houses our AS/400 > went up for sale. Instead of shipping our AS/400 to our Chicago office > and facing a certain amount of downtime, we decided to buy an identical > machine and have it installed there, then move the entire operation to > that machine. There is absolutely no difference between the two machines, > > each is a mod 620 with the same amount of memory, the same amount of DASD > and the same processor. We had a little trouble with one of our software > vendors getting the business software relocated but it was fairly easily > resolved. The only piece of IBM software that we want to move there is > Query/400. Somehow they don't believe that we really own it. We have > been running everything on the "new" machine since early March but have > only been able to run Query/400 due to obtaining temporary keys. We have > provided them with proof but they keep asking for more. Somehow > I don't understand why they can't look up our original order, invoices and > > any other documentation in their own computers. At least I would assume > that they have some kind of history in their computers. This has not won > them any points with our execs. > > Earlier we had a problem with IBM because they had our name wrong on the > billings for our hardware Maintenance agreements. We had been part of a > large corporation which sold off it's divisions to several different > entities. The corporate headquarters was sold to another company and > completely changed the name. We were no longer a part of that entity. > Somehow they changed our company name to the new name of the company we > never had anything to do with. We were fortunate enough not to need to > change our name and had never purchased anything from IBM under any other > name but our own. However, when I pointed out their error, the > representative that I spoke to insisted that we had changed our company > name, demanded to talk to my manager and demanded proof that we were who > we said we were. I finally told him I only wanted them to correct their > error and that they could keep billing us under the wrong name if they > really insisted on it. This has also been a thorn in the side of our > execs. > > The two problems are probably part and parcel of the same thing but, > instead of admitting that their records are incorrect and working with us > they insist on making it difficult to do business with them. Now the > perception is "Why Bother?". > > Many of the execs have a perception of the AS/400/iSeries as being > obsolete technology. We have been looking for new software to run the > business and I have been trying to convince the powers that be that the > AS/400 is the better way to go due to higher resistance to hackers, > viruses, reduced need for multiple servers, etc. It has been an uphill > battle but IBM's arrogance on these points has served to knock the props > out of whatever gains I was able to make. > > Unfortunately, by the end of the year we will be running our business from > > a Microsoft platform. > > > Gary S. Lea > Applications Group Manager > Dexter Magnetic Technologies, Inc. > Tel: 510-668-4645 > Fax: 510-668-5425 > glea@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > _______________________________________________ > This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) mailing > list > To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, > visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/midrange-l > or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx > Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives > at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l. > > > _______________________________________________ > This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) mailing list > To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, > visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/midrange-l > or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx > Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives > at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l. >
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