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Mike, That is exactly what I am saying too. Make you app work in all standards-compliant browsers, and if there is a reason, make it work better in some like IE. Mark "Wills, Mike N. (TC)" <MNWills@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent by: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx 10/03/2003 02:57 PM Please respond to Midrange Systems Technical Discussion To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> cc: Subject: RE: LINUX Workstations But.... You can follow standards and still have these functions in IE. Or is that an oxymoron? If you code most things to standards (so all browsers work) then add those things that only IE can do, you are still getting your results aren't you? I don't web program, so I don't know this from experience. -----Original Message----- From: Mark Phippard [mailto:MarkP@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Friday, October 03, 2003 1:33 PM To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion Subject: RE: LINUX Workstations I happen to think Joe is right on this issue. The "standards" do not include a fundamental feature required for building a good user experience in a web application - rich event handling in JavaScript. Microsoft, on the other hand, does include this feature in their implementation of the DOM in IE. I could be wrong, but I believe Joe has said in the past that his application will work with other browsers, the UI simply will not include all of the features that it does with IE. For example, IE users can use FKey shortcuts, and text that should be upper-cased or numeric-only will be handled automatically in IE, but not Mozilla. As long as he properly validates/reformats the input on the server so that non-IE browsers can be used, what is wrong with including IE-specific functionality that can improve the application? Mark "Booth Martin" <Booth@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent by: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx 10/03/2003 02:16 PM Please respond to Midrange Systems Technical Discussion To: <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> cc: Subject: RE: LINUX Workstations Joe, it isn't religious. Its history. Ask the folks at Lotus 1-2-3 and WordPerfect. I didn't say "if it's not in Mozilla, it's bad." I say if its Microsoft it will hurt me professionally someday. Knowing how much effort you have put into your product it flabbergasts me that you are so quick & ready to put your head in that noose. --------------------------------------------------------- Booth Martin http://www.MartinVT.com Booth@xxxxxxxxxxxx --------------------------------------------------------- -------Original Message------- From: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion Date: Friday, October 03, 2003 11:44:34 To: 'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion' Subject: RE: LINUX Workstations > From: Booth Martin > > By swallowing their bait you are only furthering the eventual demise > of your own product. See, this is getting religious. Your argument has degraded to "if it's not in Mozilla, it's bad." Booth, what I'm doing is giving my clients the best possible product. You and everybody on this list should realize that that is the single thing we do. If you want to make Mozilla competitive, join the Open Source development group and add the event filtering logic. Better yet, join the standards team and get them to actually write standards that mean something in the real world. Joe _______________________________________________ This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) mailing list To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/midrange-l or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l. _______________________________________________ This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) mailing list To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/midrange-l or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l. _______________________________________________ This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) mailing list To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/midrange-l or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l.
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