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I picked up a client last summer at level 20, and had to go through the
nightmare of getting them to level 40.

Al

Al Barsa, Jr.
Barsa Consulting Group, LLC

400>390

914-251-1234
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Thanks for the explanation.  Been awhile since I was that low.  Actually a
machine never lasted a day in our shop after being plugged in before going
to level 30 or higher.

Rob Berendt
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Rob,

The way IBM implemented level 20 was to add additional authorities
whenever
you create a user profile.  For sure one of them is *ALLOBJ, and I think
that there's another.  For Kirk, you can see what they are by creating a
user profile.  As  you create one at level 20, an implicit CHGUSRPRF
occurs
to add that authority, and a completion message is sent from the action of
that change.

Al

Al Barsa, Jr.
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914-251-1234
914-251-9406 fax

http://www.barsaconsulting.com
http://www.taatool.com




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At level 20, does removing *ALLOBJ from somebody actually do anything?

Wouldn't the theory actually be:
1)  Make sure that everyone has *ALLOBJ.
2)  Jump to plus 20
3)  Remove *ALLOBJ from one putz.  See what cr@ps out.  Either fix the
object with authorization lists or groups.  Then do the department, etc.

I am guessing that he's not in a shop that has time to use "application
level" security.  Which, translated, means that no one has access to any
data.  All data access is done by programs which adopt authority.

When implementing plus 20, you might want to follow these steps.  I used
this is a shop supporting multiple group profiles, etc
Create three authorization lists: groupnameF, groupnameO, groupnameQ, and
if you keep source on the production machine groupnameS.  Samples include:
 SSA30F, SSA30O, SSA30Q, SSA30S.  In these authorization lists *PUBLIC has
*EXCLUDE.
SSA30F, the users who need data access have *ALL.  Sometime, somewhere,
you'll run across a reorg or something that will requires *ALL.  *CHANGE
has never worked.
SSA30O, users have *USE, development has *ALL.
SSA30Q, users who just run queries have *USE, users who modify queries
have *ALL.
SSA30S, development has *ALL, no one else has access.

On your file library:
CHGLIB LIB(filelib) CRTAUT(SSA30F)
CHGAUT OBJ('/qsys.lib/filelib.lib') USER(*PUBLIC) DTAAUT(*EXCLUDE)
OBJAUT(*NONE)
CHGAUT OBJ('/qsys.lib/filelib.lib') AUTL(SSA30F)
CHGAUT OBJ('/qsys.lib/filelib.lib/*') USER(*PUBLIC) DTAAUT(*EXCLUDE)
OBJAUT(*NONE)
CHGAUT OBJ('/qsys.lib/filelib.lib/*') AUTL(SSA30F)

On your object library:
CHGLIB LIB(objlib) CRTAUT(SSA30O)
CHGAUT OBJ('/qsys.lib/objlib.lib') USER(*PUBLIC) DTAAUT(*EXCLUDE)
OBJAUT(*NONE)
CHGAUT OBJ('/qsys.lib/objlib.lib') AUTL(SSA30O)
CHGAUT OBJ('/qsys.lib/objlib.lib/*') USER(*PUBLIC) DTAAUT(*EXCLUDE)
OBJAUT(*NONE)
CHGAUT OBJ('/qsys.lib/objlib.lib/*') AUTL(SSA30O)

On your Query library:
CHGLIB LIB(qrylib) CRTAUT(SSA30Q)
CHGAUT OBJ('/qsys.lib/qrylib.lib') USER(*PUBLIC) DTAAUT(*EXCLUDE)
OBJAUT(*NONE)
CHGAUT OBJ('/qsys.lib/qrylib.lib') AUTL(SSA30Q)
CHGAUT OBJ('/qsys.lib/qrylib.lib/*') USER(*PUBLIC) DTAAUT(*EXCLUDE)
OBJAUT(*NONE)
CHGAUT OBJ('/qsys.lib/qrylib.lib/*') AUTL(SSA30Q)

On your source library:
CHGLIB LIB(sourcelib) CRTAUT(SSA30S)
CHGAUT OBJ('/qsys.lib/sourcelib.lib') USER(*PUBLIC) DTAAUT(*EXCLUDE)
OBJAUT(*NONE)
CHGAUT OBJ('/qsys.lib/sourcelib.lib') AUTL(SSA30S)
CHGAUT OBJ('/qsys.lib/sourcelib.lib/*') USER(*PUBLIC) DTAAUT(*EXCLUDE)
OBJAUT(*NONE)
CHGAUT OBJ('/qsys.lib/sourcelib.lib/*') AUTL(SSA30S)

After all this is completed, jump to plus 20.


Rob Berendt
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The audit journal will only help you going to level 40.

Depending on he complexity of the shop, you can revoke *ALLOBJ from one
key
user per department, and if that doesn't break everything, then the entire
department.  Go about doing this one department at a time.

Once you've done the entire company, you can change QSECURITY to 30 and
re-IPL.

Remember, every user that's not supposed to have *ALLOBJ normally will
have
it revoked in that IPL, so make sure that you have QSECOFR's password.

Al

Al Barsa, Jr.
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It been a long since I've needed to do this...

I thought I remembered there was a way to use the audit journals to test
what will happen when you move from security level 20 to 30 or higher.
I've been able to find a tip that says basically going 20 to 30 is by
setting up test profiles. I've also found a tip of going from 30 to 40
that does use the audit journal using the *PGMFAIL option.

Is there a better way to get from 20  to 30 other than by trial and error?

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