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But, if they keep gouging more and more for the room rates.

And no matter how much we beat this point to death people still look for 
cheaper rooms.

And COMMON has been paying a penalty for a few conferences now because 
people are looking elsewhere anyway.

Maybe it is time to stop playing this game and just paying for the 
conference rooms.

But then again, it might be impractical, since COMMON seems to charge the 
same as everyone else for a conference now, (unlike years ago).  That if 
we shifted expenses from the room charge to conference fees, people might 
have a hard time swallowing that.  I think there was some gnashing of 
teeth when they shifted expenses from the membership fee to conference 
fees.

Rob Berendt
-- 
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary 
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." 
Benjamin Franklin 




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Mark,

> Although I haven't checked very recently, I think that you can get rooms
>or suites for 100-150 / night w/o too much difficulty.  So staying at
>Common hotels and paying rack rates means that the member is volunteering
>to subsidize Common's coffers "over and above the call of duty."  That's
>probably unacceptable for independents.

Finding cheaper room rates is not necessarily the answer in the big 
picture.
Without enough people staying at the hosting convention facilities, COMMON 
would
not get "free" use of the meeting rooms.  Convention meeting rooms can get 
VERY
expensive when rented without accomodations too, and so then I suspect the 
cost
of the conference itself would have to be raised substantially so that you 
could
choose your own lodging.

If attendance is high enough the conference gets the miniumum number of 
guest
rooms filled to avoid surcharges, than when others stay elsewhere it does 
not
impact the overall cost.  But they would have to be the exception rather 
than
rule to avoid being charged for the use of the meeting rooms too.

As I understand how that industry works...

Doug
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