RE: V4R5 to V5R2

Justin, I don't even apply ptf's perm anymore.  Ran into TOO many 
problems.  You see, many program products are not at the same level as the 
OS anymore.  And some products even compete.  Let's talk about the Domino, 
Quickplace, Sametime triumvirate.  To upgrade one often requires that you 
remove and reapply all ptf's on one of the others.  Well, if you've 
applied the ptf's permanently then your only choice is to reinstall, and I 
get enough of that crud with Wintel.

Granted, one could APYPTF and instead of product *ALL one could do it 
program product at a time.  And I used to do so, but just don't take the 
time any longer.

Rob Berendt
-- 
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary 
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." 
Benjamin Franklin 




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If time is an issue, I'd skip it.  Of course, if you're planning on your
upgrade to fail it would be nice to have a copy of your previous system
already PTF-ed up, ready to go.

Your call, but I'm an optimist when it comes to OS upgrades - gotta be.
Apply what PTFs are on the box *PERM, IPL it, back it up, throw in the OS 
CD
and let 'er rip.

If there are prereq's, you'll obviously need to get them on tho - a whole
cume can take hours (spin time, apply time, IPL time) - might not be worth
it if you've got a finite amount of time.

jch

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Allen [mailto:mallen@xxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 2:37 PM
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Subject: RE: V4R5 to V5R2


I've always done cumes, habit I guess

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[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Justin Haase
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And what kind of box?  Do you have a lot of spooled files?  Those are
the KILLERS.  Box size and spools...

jch

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Allen [mailto:mallen@xxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 1:46 PM
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Subject: V4R5 to V5R2


Anybody who has done this what was your approx time
 
I will need to 
 
apply 4.5 cume, groups and hipers
savsys (x2)
install 5.2
apply 5.2 cume, group, hipers
 
DASD is 54.5 Gb @ approx. 80% usage
 
Mark Allen
IS Manager
Wilkes Telephone & Electric
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Washington, GA 30673
Phone: (706) 678-9565
Fax: (706) 678-1000
 

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