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Ken, If that is the case check the dates on everything but it sounds like your worst case might be 3 months of lease payments. Based on timing it might even be two months. Or if you have a really nice leasing company you could go with a quarterly payment starting 1/1/04.........with not interim rent of course........... Michael Crump Saint-Gobain Containers 1509 S. Macedonia Ave. Muncie, IN 47302 (765)741-7696 (765)741-7012 f (800)428-8642 mailto:mike.crump@saint-gobain.com "Graap, Ken" <keg@nwnatural.com> 01/29/2003 04:06 PM Please respond to Midrange Systems Technical Discussion To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@midrange.com> cc: bcc: Subject: RE: Justification to upgrade We did lease... It ended on 12/31/02 ... Our plan was to ride out this year with no hardware lease payments, just maintenance costs. -----Original Message----- From: rob@dekko.com [mailto:rob@dekko.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 10:49 AM To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion Subject: Re: Justification to upgrade Alas, you didn't lease did you? With the "more bang for less buck" common in the computer industry it would have been simple for you to say: "We can lower our lease payments, and maintenance, by upgrading to a better faster machine." That's such a no brainer that once management got over the disbelief they would have jumped at it. Push: Sametime, Quickplace, TSM, Websphere, etc. Rob Berendt -- "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin "Graap, Ken" <keg@nwnatural.com> Sent by: midrange-l-bounces@midrange.com 01/29/2003 12:05 PM Please respond to Midrange Systems Technical Discussion To: "'Midrange'" <midrange-l@midrange.com> cc: Fax to: Subject: Justification to upgrade I went to the IBM announcement yesterday and learned about the impressive new iSeries line. Our business is still being run on our old Model 730 8-way with a 1510 interactive feature. 1/2 our disk is PCI, 1/2 is still the older SPD technology. I was shocked to hear that the upgrade path from a 7XX to an 8XX system goes away in October 2003! My task is to convince management that it makes business sense to spend money and upgrade to the new product line. We don't really have a performance case either. Our current system is actually a little under utilized because we bought the largest machine we could afford a few years ago to prepare for the migration of our mainframe applications to the iSeries along with a new implementation of Lawson. This additional load didn't turn out to be as much as we thought it might be. In fact, we only use about 25-30% of the available CPU processing power on a regular basis. It is nice to have an average interactive transaction response time of .20 seconds though, but it doesn't help my case! Anyway, I was wondering if any of you would like to share some thoughts on some advantages for upgrading to new iSeries technology as it becomes available. I have a feeling that it will be a hard sell convincing management that it makes business sense to spend money in this tight economy, for an upgrade when system capacity isn't an issue. thanx in advance for all your input. Kenneth -- ******************************** Kenneth E. Graap IBM Certified Specialist AS/400 Professional System Administrator NW Natural - Information Services System Services Phone 503 226 4211 X5537 FAX 603 849 0591 keg@nwnatural.com ********************************
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