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Sounds like you speak from a lot of experience. And to keep it on an iSeries perspective let me say that running this on IXS cards on an iSeries can alleviate 'some' of the concerns. Like, nice fact you brought up about disk drives. Comm between them can be done down the backplane, but I'd still run one lan to each for those outside of the box. Backup software. While you could back up the whole storage space using traditional os400 save commands to do individual objects we use TSM. Thus no tape drives on the PC themselves are needed. (which, like the disk drives, change so often that might come back to haunt you). Failover? Ping the pc from os/400; if it fails vary if off/on and try again? But the management software, etc stay the same. Rob Berendt -- "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin Larry Bolhuis <lbolhuis@arbsol.com> Sent by: midrange-l-bounces+rob=dekko.com@midrange.com 01/17/2003 10:40 AM Please respond to Midrange Systems Technical Discussion To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@midrange.com> cc: Fax to: Subject: Re: Servers Spreading Like Rabbits... Hmm lets see. FOUR servers each with a wad of wires, each with at least one (hopefully two) power supplies each needing backups, fixes (heaven KNOWS how often you must apply fixes/patches/updates/etc. to M$ software. Each needs a name and an IP or three and ports into the switch (usually two or more each) and of course rack space (sure it's 'just 1U' but it adds up). Each needing daily administration, watch for disk space and checking error logs some method of being backed up and tapes and drives etc. And I didn't see any redundant servers in the list. Oh Oh OH, you know each M$ machine needs a friend so soon it'll be 8 servers (double your pleasure) And each needs some way to tell you whether it's up or not and OH by the time you fail a drive (and you will) that drive won't be available any longer. So you'll look for all new ones and decide that replacing the entire server is cheaper but not compatible with the other three and so the cycle begins again.... Puleeeze! This is better how? - Larry Walden H. Leverich III wrote: >>Unreal... > > > Why? Each being a 1U rackmount, it's not going to take much space. > > ------------ > Walden H Leverich III > > Just had a meeting with some folks (including a person from Microsoft) > wanting us to take a look at the Microsoft CRM product... > > Guess what ? To do this we will ONLY need 4 (FOUR) additional servers... > > One for the CRM package, one for Active Directory, one for Exchange and > one for BizTalk... > > Unreal... > > Chuck -- Larry Bolhuis | IBM Certified Solutions Expert Vice President | iSeries Technology V5 R1 Arbor Solutions, Inc. | e-business for AS/400 V4 R2 (616) 451-2500 | IBM Certified Specialist AS/400 (616) 451-2571 -fax | RPG IV Developer lbolhuis@arbsol.com | System Administrator for OS/400 V4 R4 www.arbsol.com | Professional Network Administrator | Network/Multiple Systems | Client Access _______________________________________________ This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) mailing list To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/midrange-l or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@midrange.com Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l.
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