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I know that this will strike many of you as ridiculous, but IBM is in
business to make a profit.

They charge you for upgrades to V5R1, because it costs money to bring out
V5R1.  You could have stayed at V4R2, and not had the increased function,
you could have bought a M270 and gotten V5R1 that way, but anyway you look
at it, IBM needs to offset the costs of bringing on the new technology.

Al

Al Barsa, Jr.
Barsa Consulting Group, LLC

400>390

914-251-1234
914-251-9406 fax

http://www.barsaconsulting.com
http://www.taatool.com






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Indeed, I don't NEED r510 and have been running the website just fine on
r420, but I WANTed some of the new OS features and such. If there's no way
around paying massive amounts of money to run r510 on a "hobby" machine
that
I paid less for than a PC, then I guess I'll be going back (except maybe to
r440 or so). I'd like to avoid replacing the machine, as I've only just got
it maxed out. And yes, it heats the townhouse wonderfully and soon will be
useful on my boat (if I had one).

Or I could scratch install r510 every 71 days or so...

I guess this explains the lack of AS/400 tools developers, homegrown
utilities, and the like?

-----Original Message-----
From: John Ross [mailto:jross-ml@netshare400.com]
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 11:10 AM
To: midrange-l@midrange.com
Subject: Re: Getting legal!


Working for A BP may get you a discount but it is still not going to be
cheap. I had 60 or 90 days to get software subscription before they charged
me currency access fee (penalty), had to prove the purchase date.

I would talk with someone at your company, if it is any size at all they
maybe know of customers getting rid of AS/400's with V5R1 you could get
cheap.  If you are just looking to run your website on it you may not need
V5R1. I am not sure how web serving worked on V4R2, I started on V4R3 You
could also look at getting a 250 they are not to bad in price for an AS400
(around $8,400, should be less working for a BP)  and comes with a nice
setup, you would only need to add WDS, if you want to program on it. And
another option is to look at companies that host web sites on an AS400 (yes
I run one)

Info on the 250
http://www-1.ibm.com/servers/eserver/iseries/hardware/mod250.htm

I think you are about to find out why people take an old PC put Linux and
Apache on it.

John Ross

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