RE: Application development tools (was: no subject)

>...if I buy a car I expect it to
>come with an ignition key, a steering
>wheel, a seat ... IOW ... there are
>some things that should be part of the product.

Agreed.  And a car is a turn-key product like a toaster or a VCR.  If I work
in a business that makes custom cars out of stock vehicles it is not
reasonable to have the original factory supply me (for free) with all of the
custom tools I need.

>If IBM supply CRTCLPGM *Cmd, what is the
>point without the editor?

For a turn-key system (say JDE software and iSeries hardware sold together
by a BP) you don't (in theory!) need an editor or compiler.  I believe the
inclusion of CRTCLCMD in the base OS was a decision based on bundling CL as
an integrated part of CPF.
  --buck