Re: Cheaper Servers?

["Paul Raulerson" <praulerson@xxxxxxxxxx>]

No  - really different targets for each machine, though iSeries is still
overpriced.
You do get what you pay for.


----- Original Message -----
From: <jpcarr@tredegar.com>
To: <midrange-l@midrange.com>
Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 9:06 PM
Subject: Cheaper Servers?


>
> This is a portion of Newswire and I apologize for presenting a snippet
> here,
> but I wanted to ask the group,
>
> Given that,  (From Snippet below)
>
>  "IBM's p670 offering is especially affordable because of the
> efficiencies gained by sharing processor technology and the
> Rochester manufacturing facility with the iSeries,"
>
> If we share the same hardware, and IBM OWNS  OS/400 and AIX
> and they are putting relatively the same R&D money into both,
>
> Should the iSeries cost the same as a pSeries  ( +/-   a few $)  ??
>
> Also given; (from snippet below)
>
> "The p670 also targets the same types of consolidation
> workloads as the iSeries, with the largest 16-way box able to
> support 16 Unix or Linux logical partitions."
>
> Then if the pSeries costs lots less,  wouldn't that give a considerable
> marketing advantage to the pSeries?
>
> Maybe a town hall meeting question to who ever is going to COMMON.
>
> John Carr
>
> ----------------------------------
>
> IBM RENEWS ATTACK ON MIDRANGE MARKET
> http://www.iseriesnetwork.com/nwn/story.cfm?ID=14190
>
> <SNIP>
> The midrange space is a reliable, growing market, but IBM and its
> competitors have a secondary reason for their renewed interest, says
> Sageza Group senior analyst Charles King. "Enterprises have pretty
> tight purse strings right now," he says. "[IBM's] Regatta and
> [Sun's] Star Cat 15K are both very interesting, very capable high-
> end machines, but I think vendors like IBM and Sun may have looked
> around and thought, maybe we should come out with something cheaper,
> something companies can get by with, that they can actually afford
> at this point."
>
> IBM's p670 offering is especially affordable because of the
> efficiencies gained by sharing processor technology and the
> Rochester manufacturing facility with the iSeries, McGaughan says.
> The p670 is priced about 36 percent less than comparable Sun Fire
> models 4800 and 6800 and about 20 percent less than comparable HP
> RP8400 models. The p670 also targets the same types of consolidation
> workloads as the iSeries, with the largest 16-way box able to
> support 16 Unix or Linux logical partitions. (That's compared to the
> HP 8400 and Sun Fire 4800, which can each support just two
> partitions, and the Sun Fire 6800, which can support four.) IBM
> expects to have 64-bit Linux running in a pSeries partition in third
> quarter.
>
> <SNIP>
>
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