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Every time I read this quote I cringe. Let's consider, if I was running say
Apache, or the native AS/400 HTTP server I would STILL have to patch all my
PCs running IE (clients) and Outlook Express (again clients). So the cost to
patch these pcs should not be included in the TCO of IIS since the cost is
there regardless of the server used.

Additionally, an IIS server that was only moderately current on patches was
IMMUNE to Nimda _and_ CodeRed. The real pain of these two viruses was the
bandwidth they used attempting to hack my server. That bandwidth would be
used up regardless of the web server I had.

Finally, the number of OTHER people running an unpatched server is not
effected by my use of any server. Whether I use IIS, Apache, Domino or HTTP
native the same number of OTHER people will be using IIS and PWS, so how
does my changing server help? Abandoning IIS for another server because
there are so many ill-managed, unpatched servers in the world is roughly the
same as saying "I'm afraid of getting hit by a drunk driver so I won't
drink."

-Walden

-----Original Message-----
From: Dennis Lovelady [mailto:dlovelady@dtcc.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 9:40 AM
To: midrange-l@midrange.com
Subject: Re: Gartner Group: DO NOT USE IIS!



Hi, all:

Quoting Gartner
     To protect against Nimda, Microsoft recommends
     installing numerous patches and service packs on
     virtually every PC and server running IE, IIS Web
     servers or the Outlook Express e-mail client. As
     the earlier Code Red worm showed, many servers and
     PCs running IIS Web server processes may not be obvious
     since they may be run as personal Web servers on the
     intranet but still be exposed to the Internet.
End quote

Ummm... I have a slightly different suggestion.  For those applications
where AS/400 may not be a good fit, or may just be too expensive to
implement there....

Why patch MS to make it kinda-sorta reliable for the next few minutes?  Why
use MS at all?  Why does our user community and those who make the
decisions even CONSIDER putting up with the expense and problems of
trouble-prone MS products?

All of this stuff and much more is available for Linux and other flavors of
Unix, and at prices that should scare the dickens out of Macro$loth
(frequently $0.00; invariably less than MS).  Also, have those
decision-making people not been watching the salary costs of MS "CEs" vs. a
good System Administrator on ANY other platform?
   Number of unix systems impacted by IIS threats: 0.
   Number of unix systems impacted by the Code Red virus: 0

Dennis Lovelady
Accenture








"Norm Dennis" <wmss@iinet.net.au>@midrange.com on 09/26/2001 09:20:16 AM

Please respond to midrange-l@midrange.com

Sent by:  midrange-l-admin@midrange.com


To:   <midrange-l@midrange.com>
cc:
Subject:  Re: Gartner Group: DO NOT USE IIS!


This is a link to The Australian:

http://australianit.news.com.au/common/storyPage/0,3811,2937520%5E442,00.htm
l



----- Original Message -----
From: "Schenck, Don" <Don.Schenck@pfizer.com>
Sent: Wednesday, 26 September 2001 20:56


Anyone else see the article in which it quotes the Gartner Group as saying
companies should abandon IIS as quickly as possible?

As a Windows developer ... lemme tell ya ... truer words have never been
spoken.



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