RE: *** ADMIN: New list -- ISN-Citizens!

Rob,

As always you have a sharp eye for detail.  However, I could disagree with
you on several points.

Rather than what Leif suggested, I would suggest we take this topic
off-line, if you want to debate.  I'm never averse to debating with you, but
I have some work to do for a paying client at 2:00pm and there was some talk
about going out to dinner with family.  So, it ain't gonna happen today.

While I got you "on the phone" let me ask you this:  I visited the IAiC site
today, for the first time since I "un-joined".  I was looking for one
particular paragraph, for a letter I'm writing to someone at IBM.  It was
the one that listed 4 steps to collaboration.  I couldn't find it.  If you
feel like it, and you know the post I'm referring to, can you e-mail it to
me PRIVATELY please.  TIA.

Later,

jJt

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-midrange-l@midrange.com
[mailto:owner-midrange-l@midrange.com]On Behalf Of Rob Dixon
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 10:34 AM
To: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com
Subject: Re: *** ADMIN: New list -- ISN-Citizens!


JT

I am somewhat surprised and sorry that I find a need to correct your
statements
twice in one day.

<snip>

> You may, or may not, know that one of the *many* reasons I left the AAG
was
> because Rob Dixon refused to allow the topic of how your listserv is run
on
> Unix.  I wanted to talk about doing the AAG on a 400 (how else could we
> complain about IBM running their business on Eunuchs...?)  But speed is of
> the essence...  Whatever it takes to get a listserv up and running is OK
> with me and I'm sure others, under the circumstances.

</snip>

It happens that I kept all the posts on Advocacy.

In the post to which you refer, which I sent on 2nd September, 2000, I
quoted
from your earlier post

> But I, personally, am having doubts about continuing to work on this
> project.  I'm not seeing how I can offer any serious suggestions to IBM,
> when we ourselves don't use a 400 in _this_ project.

I responded

"I think your concerns are not realistic.

We pay nothing for this wonderful Midrange list.  David Gibbs provides this
as a service to the AS/400 community out of the kindness of his heart."

I also said

"I don't want to start a debate on this subject in Advocacy.  If anyone
wants
to raise it further, please do so on the main Midrange list - PLEASE NOT
HERE."

I was trying to get us to focus on the topic on hand without diversions - an
difficult task -  but as I had said in an earlier post, I was not the rule
setter
and could not refuse the topic - just discourage it in that particular list.

In your response on 5th September, you wrote

"Since I am withdrawing from the committee (I'm sending a separate post on
this) I don't guess it matters a whole lot one way or the other.  My bailing
out of the group has nothing to do with this particular topic."

Your statement today which I quote at the beginning of this post seems
somewhat
at odds with this much earlier statement.

Best wishes

Rob
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