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  • Subject: RE: no Java in XP Windows
  • From: "jt" <jt@xxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 14:40:45 -0400
  • Importance: High



-----Original Message-----
From: owner-midrange-l@midrange.com
[mailto:owner-midrange-l@midrange.com]On Behalf Of Wills, Mike N. (TC)
Sent: Friday, July 20, 2001 12:35 PM
To: 'MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com'
Subject: RE: no Java in XP Windows


<snip>
I agree with you again, almost completely...

I think this could best be accomplished by splitting MicroSoft into two
companies:  One that does BOTH applications and OS, and another that does
BOTH applications and OS.

MicroSoft has always used this technique, internally, to develop new
products.  (The Office team recently won such a competition, and IIRC
Project "Hailstorm" is the result of that competition.)  So they might go
for this kind of split up.

Bill Gates and shareholders get to keep all the money.  There would just be
more of it.

Who loses...?
</snip>


...but...how would that effect anything in the first few years. Because the
new company would have to build completely new applications, as we all know
that takes quite a bit of time. It took them 6+ years to get to Windows
2000/XP stability level. The other company would be in the same boat as
Linux is now, attempting to catch up to the technology and to get a good
share of the market. That is not what we need.

Mike Wills


==============================

Mike,

Thanks for the comments.

***What I'm suggesting is two companies that start with the same code
base.***  Just split them up in two teams (ie companies).  Let them duke it
out, and given the carnivarous atmosphere at M$, you would probably see some
amazing innovation.  Therefore, more money for Bill Gates and his
shareholders.


But the important point is:  whether you try to do this with a court-ordered
settlement and/or you try to do it with the iNation, it will probably take a
"few years" to change the way the entire world uses computers.  That's the
only reasonable timeframe.

That's where the Linux "lemmings" have a clear insight the iSeries Community
does not.  They understand that, although each individual's efforts don't
amount to a pimple on a knat's *ss (including even an awesome individual
like Mr. Haines), the sum of those individual efforts DOES MAKE A
DIFFERENCE.  MR. HAINES HAS MADE A DIFFERENCE, and he is but one individual.
What he has, that most lack is a powerful passion and a will to TRY TO MAKE
IT HAPPEN...  (Those are his words to me...  "Someone has to MAKE IT
HAPPEN".)

What I admire most about Mr. Haines is that he never tried to make himself
out to be a demi-god, like Linus Torvalds and ESR have done so blatantly.  I
assume Mr. Haines has the wisdom to know that these are things that
shouldn't be trifled with.  In so doing, Mr. Haines sets an example THAT
ANYONE CAN FOLLOW.  Mr. Haines' passion is matched by many in the Community.
What almost everyone lacks is the will to try...  I emphasize "almost"...
Certainly, there are certainly people in the Community that have his
"vision" (for want of a better word).

jJt

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