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>IPLing from A means it loads the OS which includes all the Permanently >applied PTFS, but none of the Temporary applied PTFs. What if there are no Permanently Applied cume PTFs? Others have mentioned the Superseded cume PTFs listed mean that they were once applied, but in the absence of a Permanently Applied cume, it is my thinking that, when the cume that is currently "Temporarily Applied" was installed, that process threw in all of the superseded cume PTFs as a reference. I have another box that shows: PTF ID Status TL98314 Temporarily applied TL98069 Superseded TL97343 Permanently applied TL97252 Superseded TL97161 Superseded TL97105 Superseded TL97056 Superseded etc. Given what I've been told about the previous AS/400 sys admin-type activities in this organization, I would bet any amount of money that not all of the superseded cumes were ever loaded. Dan Bale IT - AS/400 Handleman Company 248-362-4400 Ext. 4952 D.Bale@Handleman.com Quiquid latine dictum sit altum viditur. (Whatever is said in Latin seems profound.) -------------------------- Original Message -------------------------- Your assumption is not totally correct. IPLing from A means it loads the OS which includes all the Permanently applied PTFS, but none of the Temporary applied PTFs. IPLing from B loads the OS with the permanent PTFS, but also loads the temporarily applied PTFS. I had this same situation happen to me once, where normally we IPLed from the B side, but somehow it got switched over to the A side. I switched it back to the B side the next time I reIPLed, ran for a couple weeks, then went through and permanently applied all the PTFs. It is suggested that you permanently apply the current temporary applied PTFs before you load a CUM tape. So, yes, you should re-IPL to the B side and let it run a couple weeks, then permanently apply the current PTFs before applying the CUM tape. Regards, Jim Langston Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 16:09:00 -0400 From: D.BALE@handleman.com Subject: IPL source: ##MACH#A - Uh oh! After creating my original post on the cume & group PTFs, I came across an interesting (?) situation on our V3R2 development box. DSPPTF shows: Product ID . . . . . . : 5763999 IPL source . . . . . . : ##MACH#A Release . . . . . . . . : V3R2M0 Type options, press Enter. 5=Display PTF details 6=Print cover letter 8=Display cover PTF IPL Opt ID Status Action _ TL98139 Temporarily applied None _ TL98048 Superseded None _ TL97322 Superseded None _ TL97231 Superseded None _ TL97126 Superseded None _ TL97063 Superseded None _ TL97014 Superseded None _ TL96317 Superseded None _ TL96282 Superseded None _ TL96233 Superseded None _ TL96219 Superseded None _ TL96191 Superseded None _ TL96165 Superseded None _ TL96144 Superseded None _ RE97230 Permanently applied None _ RE96102 Permanently applied None _ MF19696 Save file only None _ MF18809 Temporarily applied None etc.... Note that the last IPL source shows ##MACH#A. If I interpret correctly that the TL* entries are the cume PTFs, would it not appear that this box is currently running on a totally non-cume'd bare V3R2 OS? No one here has any idea how long this box has been running in ##MACH#A; most likely since cume 98139 was applied. I suppose I should IPL to ##MACH#B and run that for a week or so before installing the latest/last cume (subject to the question of whether I should even bother - see last post). Again, all useful advice solicited. Dan Bale IT - AS/400 Handleman Company 248-362-4400 Ext. 4952 D.Bale@Handleman.com Quiquid latine dictum sit altum viditur. (Whatever is said in Latin seems profound.) +--- | This is the Midrange System Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com +---
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