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No its not true, right from my first week I was rolling out VB macro scripts for Netsoft Elite users. After 4 weeks I progressed from Macros to writing Automators that screen scrape of the AS/400 for 12 hours a day and HELL I have only had this programming job by default since March this year. I think the management must of felt sorry for me answering the phones-call centre day in and day out.They knew I had an old E20 at home and always liked reading up on the AS/400 in my breaks. Funny how things turn out--I always wanted to be an AS/400 operator and they wanted me to be a VB programmer.Thats life. cheers Dave ---------- > From: OleBlighty <oleblighty@home.com> > To: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com > Subject: Re: Growing your own programmers > Date: Tuesday, 22 June 1999 11:07 > > "It still takes 3-6 month for an experienced programmer to become productive > and years to become an ASSET." > > Surely that can't be true. If it were true, there would be no contract > work. Just my opinion. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Chris Bipes <ChrisB@cross-check.com> > To: <MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com> > Sent: Monday, June 21, 1999 7:49 AM > Subject: RE: Growing your own programmers > > > > I agree that a lot of home grown programmers tend to leave because they > make > > less. Well they should not make less. They should be given a raise to > the > > market level. Remember that an experienced programmer still needs to be > > trained on YOUR CUSTOM systems as well as YOUR business rules, practices, > > management style.... It still takes 3-6 month for an experienced > programmer > > to become productive and years to become an ASSET. There is a lot more to > > consider! Companies need to have their eyes opened to the value of the > > employees in technical positions. Hey I had to give notice to get my big > > raise, to market value. > > > > > > Christopher K. Bipes mailto:ChrisB@Cross-Check.com > > Sr. Programmer/Analyst mailto:Chris_Bipes@Yahoo.com > > CrossCheck, Inc. http://www.cross-check.com > > 6119 State Farm Drive Phone: 707 586-0551 x 1102 > > Rohnert Park CA 94928 Fax: 707 586-1884 > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: nina jones [mailto:ddi@datadesigninc.com] > > Sent: Saturday, June 19, 1999 7:50 AM > > To: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com > > Subject: Re: Growing your own programmers > > > > > > > I finally left because like most home-grown programmers, once you get > the > > > skills, the company fails to adjust your compensation accordingly. So > > > that's definitely something else to keep in mind. > > > > that brought back memories. i worked for a bank in 1971 that got a > > system 3, and i got trained because i did well on the aptitude test. > > > > 6 months later i was complaining because i wasn't being paid what the > > want ads were saying programmers were worth. somehow in my 19 year old > > maturity, i missed out on the fact that the bank paid for the training, > > and my salary while i was training, and my time to futz around when i > > didn't know what i was doing. and there was a lot of that. > > > > so we moved to oklahoma city, where i took a job that paid twice what i > > was making. > > about ten years ago, we took a green wanna be just out of college grad > > and trained him on the as/400. about a year later, he found out that he > > was making less that a lady we hired after him. never mind she had 15 > > years of experience. he complained so much that she ended up quitting. > > > > so what's the solution? i'm not sure there is one! companies feel > > burned because they pay for training, and have a right to expect a > > return. employees are upset because they are getting paid less than > > market and go elsewhere. maybe home growing has cut back because it's > > cheaper to hire someone else's home grown product! > > > > nj > > +--- > > | This is the Midrange System Mailing List! > > | To submit a new message, send your mail to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com. > > | To subscribe to this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-SUB@midrange.com. > > | To unsubscribe from this list send email to > MIDRANGE-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. > > | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: > david@midrange.com > > +--- > > +--- > | This is the Midrange System Mailing List! > | To submit a new message, send your mail to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com. > | To subscribe to this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-SUB@midrange.com. > | To unsubscribe from this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. > | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com > +--- +--- | This is the Midrange System Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com +---
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